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Is there a definitive solution to the dry start knock on the 3.8?
I have a 2009 JKUR, with 63k miles on it, I have read/followed all the threads that I could find, I think I have tried it all
Oil 5/20 5/30 Filters Fram Napa Gold Wix No matter what I have done, the knock at starting remains, what am I missing? Is there a particular brand of oil? I have been using Penzoil. Thanks. |
Is it a knock, as if a rod is knocking?
Or is it a lifter ticking? |
Originally Posted by ronjenx
(Post 3513140)
Is it a knock, as if a rod is knocking?
Or is it a lifter ticking? Only if it has been sitting long enough for the engine to cool down. |
Hemi Swap! Just kidding. My 07 Started to do that. Dealership said it was poss. the oil pump starting to go bad. I swapped it for a 12 before it got worse. Then ran into the head issue with my 12. Go figure.
Also 09s had an issue with the lifters needing to be adjusted every so often. |
I also have had intermittent issues with this ticking at start up.
I have also tried many different oils and filters. I am using Castrol GTX 5-20 in winter and 10-30 in summer. This seems to work best for me. I have settled on Fram as I have used these for a number of years on a number of vehicles with high mileage. I find mine is worse if I have not driven it in a few days. Still, I have 40K miles and it does not use any oil and seems to be running fine. Hope this helps. Stay Safe - Mandor6863 |
It looks like you've covered all the usual suspects.
You can find the noisy lifter and see if a new one works better. You can install a pump to get the oil pressure up before starting the engine. Or you can live with it. Unless it's something bad like a cam lobe wearing down, I don't think it's a big issue. |
Originally Posted by btadlock
(Post 3513109)
I have a 2009 JKUR, with 63k miles on it, I have read/followed all the threads that I could find, I think I have tried it all
Oil 5/20 5/30 Filters Fram Napa Gold Wix No matter what I have done, the knock at starting remains, what am I missing? Is there a particular brand of oil? I have been using Penzoil. Thanks. |
It took me a while to figure out what my jeep likes, but the knock stopped when I switched to mobile one full synthetic (10w-30) and the napa platinum filters. Not saying it is a definitive fix but it worked for me.
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What about trying a 0w30? I have run 0w30 in everything for a long time (LS1, LS2, LS6 etc.) and 0w40 in my current VW. Just a thought, but I really don't know if that will help with that initial knock. IMO it's worth a shot as it will only get to the top end quicker.
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Mine just developed the lifter noise at 70K. Used Mobil 1 synthetic and been trying filters. Took the Motorcraft off tonight and it was full of oil. Molar on it now. My noise is from the #2 bank driver side front. Anyone else with the #2?
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