itchy17

I have tried to search the forums but now I am unsure of the direction to go. I want to install this myself, I do have an auto, Rubicon. I want the extended range and also want to be able to start it with out the horn honking each time. I want to keep this affordable but use higher quality equipment.

DunnyBunny

I'd look into viper. Might not be so plug and play but will give you a longer range. How long of a range are yoi wanting?

orangedude71

I have a viper on my 2012. I do get a random horn honk on start every 30/40 starts or so. Install wasn't tremendously hard but still took the better part of a day as I didn't know what I was doing most of the time. If your going after remote start only, I might suggest you stay oem only

itchy17

Thank you for your response but any range 1000' or more would be great! I really don't want to cut or tap any wires and I want to do it myself.

itchy17

Thanks for your input, putting in a day of work to get it done is really no big deal. I really like Viper but don't want to pay for the install and I don't want to cut or tap wires.

orangedude71

with the d-ball I only needed to tap one ignition wire in the column and run 12v to the battery. Everything else was plug in. of course run all the wires for siren and various sensors. I think if I went nuts and did more wire tapping , I could have gotten lights to flash on alarm and also done window control from remote. But all I wanted was remote start, motion sensor, proximity sensor and hood pin, so that is all I wired up

itchy17

This sounds like what I am looking for, what was the ignition wire that you needed to used for? Was that for the dball or the viper?

orangedude71

Here's a thread from 12v site where I sorted it out. I was using the dball as an interface to the viper. The viper manages the remote start in that situation. However there is an option where the dball can be programmed to handle remote start capabilities and you can start the car using three clicks from the stock remote. But if your looking for long range starting, the only choice is to use the viper http://www.the12volt.com/installbay/...asp?tid=127425

DunnyBunny

I need to reference thus thread for future use

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