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Old 11-23-2016, 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by PsychoCupcake
4.56 would probably be overkill for 33s but I would hate to do gears multiple times. 4.88s are what I'm running for the 3.6 auto and 37s and I think it is spot on. If I were you I'd hold of on gears until you know what your final desired tire size is and then go the appropriate gearing.
Well I really want to help my Jeep and if I can buy a set of gears relatively inexpensively and put them in myself, I don’t mind changing them again later once I do size up. I just think 4.11 would be good for right now and even all the way up to 35" especially since I will be pulling a 2.5K# boat occasionally.
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Originally Posted by PsychoCupcake
Using a diff spreader is recommended for gear swaps anyway. I can't imagine putting it back in without one. So, I don't think you had too much preload... it was probably just fine.
I've replaced axle seals on stock 30s and never needed a case spreader. There was only one machined shim on one side and it came out and went back in with little trouble. The guy that helped me (mechanic that owns his own shop) told me that it's more rare to need a spreader than not.

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I just think 4.11 would be good for right now
You keep saying 4.11, but it's actually 4.10 in the Jeep JK that is the common ratio, not 4.11. And you would be much better off with 4.56 on the 3.6l with 35" tires.

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[/QUOTE]You keep saying 4.11, but it's actually 4.10 in the Jeep JK that is the common ratio, not 4.11. And you would be much better off with 4.56 on the 3.6l with 35" tires.[/QUOTE]

Oh man so picky! Same difference! ;-)
I'd like to find a gear that'll work for anything from 33-35" until I want to a lot lower.
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As per yukons instructions there's hardly ever if any known failures due to too much carrier bearing preload. If anything, the more preload you get the less chance of improper meshing under load.

I've set my gears up and a bunch of other people's. The first set I did was my own. It's really not hard. The first time takes a while, mostly because of the nervousness, but it's a pretty easy job. I can also say I've broken 3 sets of Dana 30 4.88s that I've set up, but Neither i, nor many other people with more expertise who've seen them believe the set up was the cause of those.
The best advice I could give you if you plan on doing it yourself, go with Yukon gears and buy the extra extended lifetime warranty. It is a badass warranty. I've had my new gears in within 2 days of breaking them with no questions asked. I got my gears through 4ws (not 4WD hardware) for about $570 F/R with master install kits and the lifetime warranties.
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Originally Posted by Chuck-The-Ripper
As per yukons instructions there's hardly ever if any known failures due to too much carrier bearing preload. If anything, the more preload you get the less chance of improper meshing under load.

I've set my gears up and a bunch of other people's. The first set I did was my own. It's really not hard. The first time takes a while, mostly because of the nervousness, but it's a pretty easy job. I can also say I've broken 3 sets of Dana 30 4.88s that I've set up, but Neither i, nor many other people with more expertise who've seen them believe the set up was the cause of those.
The best advice I could give you if you plan on doing it yourself, go with Yukon gears and buy the extra extended lifetime warranty. It is a badass warranty. I've had my new gears in within 2 days of breaking them with no questions asked. I got my gears through 4ws (not 4WD hardware) for about $570 F/R with master install kits and the lifetime warranties.

Nice! I will definitely do that! Thanks!
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Originally Posted by landis76
You keep saying 4.11, but it's actually 4.10 in the Jeep JK that is the common ratio, not 4.11. And you would be much better off with 4.56 on the 3.6l with 35" tires.
Oh man so picky! Same difference! ;-)
I'd like to find a gear that'll work for anything from 33-35" until I want to a lot lower.
Actually, the difference is -.000593437. LOL!

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Originally Posted by ShutterBug
Actually, the difference is -.000593437. LOL!

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Go with 4.56 for 33"s? Do you think I'd hit too high of RPMs? I'd like to go there now and then I wouldn't have to worry about it for while until I want to change out my front Dana 30.
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Originally Posted by landis76
Go with 4.56 for 33"s? Do you think I'd hit too high of RPMs? I'd like to go there now and then I wouldn't have to worry about it for while until I want to change out my front Dana 30.
If you intend to go to 35s, 4.56 is the right ratio. I run 4.88s and it'll make it right for 37s. My RPMs are a little high at highway speeds.
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Originally Posted by ShutterBug
If you intend to go to 35s, 4.56 is the right ratio. I run 4.88s and it'll make it right for 37s. My RPMs are a little high at highway speeds.

So check this out. I'm sure you guys have seen this. If I go with 4.1, it keeps my RPMs slightly above stock even with 37s. So given the fact that my Jeep is a DD, limited on serious wheelin, tow a 2.5K# boat occassionally and I may or may not even go bigger than the 33"s for my next set with the long term expectation to go to 37s... 4.1 seems to be the way to go... yes?

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Originally Posted by ShutterBug
You keep saying 4.11, but it's actually 4.10 in the Jeep JK that is the common ratio, not 4.11. And you would be much better off with 4.56 on the 3.6l with 35" tires.
Thank you! It drives me. It's when people call them 4.11. Maybe if you can't get the ration right you should try doing a gear set up! Lol! And it's not"the same thing" landis... it's .01 difference. That would be important to someone setting up gears.

Don't get me wrong I have done most of my build myself but I would never do gears. I don't even want to ever pull the carrier for any reason.

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