Headlamp 101 by Daniel Stern
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Okay, so I've posed the following questions;
1. to DS lighting, and how exactly do we convert our h13 wiring to h4 wiring plug??
2. to jpaddict, Am I to understand that this setup is a direct bolt in or are there modifications required to make these lights fit? As from a previous post, it looks like has has done the mod.
As soon as I hear back from either, I'll post answers.
1. to DS lighting, and how exactly do we convert our h13 wiring to h4 wiring plug??
2. to jpaddict, Am I to understand that this setup is a direct bolt in or are there modifications required to make these lights fit? As from a previous post, it looks like has has done the mod.
As soon as I hear back from either, I'll post answers.
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Not sure how useful this is, because I've never done it, but this from DS, in regards to how to get an H4 socket to work with our H13 wiring;
Chop off the H13 socket and install an H4 socket.
If anybody has experience with this, please chime in.
Chop off the H13 socket and install an H4 socket.
If anybody has experience with this, please chime in.
I have the Cibie lights from DS. I have not yet had time to do the install, but did pick up the retaining rings from an '06 TJ which will work in my '07 JK. Not a difficult job as long as you stick with the instructions on DS website.
He does not have a "shopping cart" because you should call him for consultation on your specific application and goals.
He does not have a "shopping cart" because you should call him for consultation on your specific application and goals.
First off. . . I've done the upgrade, and it's worth the money.
Second. . . You do NOT need the TJ retaining rings, at least I didn't on ours. The Jk ones fit and worked fine.
Third. . . the reflectors are a direct replacement. No modifying needed.
Forth. . . I haven't seen the plugs Daniel sells, but I bought 2 "High Heat" H4 plugs from Autozone (Parts America also has them) and they work fine. I just used "T-tap's" for now with stock wattage bulbs and after 2000 miles to Moab and back (including 100 in the CO blizzard) they worked fine. I will run all new wiring / relays when I upgrade to higher wattage bulbs though.
Fifth. . . Proof. . .
First showing the light and JK mounting ring. . .

Second showing the full setup on the front of ours. The Cibie E-codes, and 2 Lightforce 170 Strikers (Pic was taken last week when we were half way down the "Top Of The World" trail in Moab.)
Second. . . You do NOT need the TJ retaining rings, at least I didn't on ours. The Jk ones fit and worked fine.
Third. . . the reflectors are a direct replacement. No modifying needed.
Forth. . . I haven't seen the plugs Daniel sells, but I bought 2 "High Heat" H4 plugs from Autozone (Parts America also has them) and they work fine. I just used "T-tap's" for now with stock wattage bulbs and after 2000 miles to Moab and back (including 100 in the CO blizzard) they worked fine. I will run all new wiring / relays when I upgrade to higher wattage bulbs though.
Fifth. . . Proof. . .
First showing the light and JK mounting ring. . .

Second showing the full setup on the front of ours. The Cibie E-codes, and 2 Lightforce 170 Strikers (Pic was taken last week when we were half way down the "Top Of The World" trail in Moab.)
Yeah, but it's a simple job. The top is held by some push pins, and the bottom is just clipped in. Just remove the push pins that hold the top part, and then grab the grill at the bottom of one of the outside slats and put the other hand down by the parking light and give it a quick jerk and it will release the clips. Repeat on the other side, and if the center is still clipped it will pop free by grabbing a couple of the center slats.
The center of the push pins should spin up enough to grab by loosening them with a phillips, but if they don't then just hand start a drywall / wood screw down into the center and that will grip them enough so you can pull the center pin free. I then used a small J-hook to remove the outer part of the pins. Be a little careful as you can scratch the paint with the J-hook if your not carefull. (The scratched area will be covered by the pins when they're reinstalled.)
The parking lights have a red tab that has to be pulled out then the release can be squeezed to unplug them.
When you go to reinstall the push pins you just pop the outers back in and then push the centers in.
It's literally a 15 minute job. I've had ours out probably 6-7 times now and can have it out in about 3 minutes.
The reflector retaining rings take a T-15 torx, as does the adjustment screw.
Oh. . . and remember how to do this as you have to pull the grill, and headlight to change the bulbs. . . even on the factory setup.
Last edited by Hip2u77; Jan 2, 2007 at 09:23 AM.
Well, I built a nice wiring harness for the relays, but had to stop because I have a question on the ground.:confused:
Does anyone know if the JK has a switched ground? According to the DS website, you can make it work either way, but I wanted to use the batt neg for ground with 12ga wire.
Once I complete my retina roaster project, I will post photos.
Does anyone know if the JK has a switched ground? According to the DS website, you can make it work either way, but I wanted to use the batt neg for ground with 12ga wire.
Once I complete my retina roaster project, I will post photos.


