AND BAM!! NO PAY, Gov't Shutdown
Its not. It is the current political idea that I am right and you are wrong. 30 years ago it was "Team America", now it is "Team Demoncrat" or "Team Republican".
Democrats typically treat the military with more disregard, hence me being Repub but that has little to do with this situation.
I feel that a Stonger and less "Team Democrat" and more "Team America" President could have had this situation resolved and the parties working better together.
The Media is defining a broader line between the 2 parties and there are no gray areas on what you are allowed to decide as a politician. Since this has happened, haven't you noticed the segregation of Americans based on party lines!
I cannot see this way of thinking ending anytime soon. The Liberals are too liberal and want to allow everything, the Conservative are too conservative and want to sanction everything and there is no room for flexibility.
I am trying to remain nuetral on this post but it is my personal opinion that since the publics popular morality code has became extinct, the division of left and right will become even larger and lead to even more issues in the government. This will not change until we lose all identity of where and what America was built on.
Democrats typically treat the military with more disregard, hence me being Repub but that has little to do with this situation.
I feel that a Stonger and less "Team Democrat" and more "Team America" President could have had this situation resolved and the parties working better together.
The Media is defining a broader line between the 2 parties and there are no gray areas on what you are allowed to decide as a politician. Since this has happened, haven't you noticed the segregation of Americans based on party lines!
I cannot see this way of thinking ending anytime soon. The Liberals are too liberal and want to allow everything, the Conservative are too conservative and want to sanction everything and there is no room for flexibility.
I am trying to remain nuetral on this post but it is my personal opinion that since the publics popular morality code has became extinct, the division of left and right will become even larger and lead to even more issues in the government. This will not change until we lose all identity of where and what America was built on.
Anyways, Its sad the people serving the country are also getting screwed by it. My brother in law just got sent to Libya (or somewhere nearby) on a few days notice. A week later, hes being told he's going back home. And then learns he might not be getting paid but still has to work. He and my sister have a 11 month old baby. She just moved back here while he was gone so our family can help her take care of the baby while she goes back to school. Now she cant afford a home or go to school. Im letting her move in with me to help her out. She now might have to work instead of going to school. My niece just started walking and talking. All she says is dad, dad, dad, and he's missing it. Its sad.

Cut Congresses pay. Give them a taste of it.
I agree with Murdadock, we need to go back to Team America and stop this political clusterfuck between the Republicans and Democrats before it brings this great nation down.
what you and Murdadock said! right on. I am so sick of the division in this country - none of us are EVER going to agree on everything. It is like half the country hates each other - it is really sad.
First off before I rant… It is truly regrettable that our esteemed politicians are idiots and can’t compromise to the financial detriment of so many Federal Employees…
Now for the rant…
Are you ready…
I guess all of the Bush spending had nothing to do with it our deficit... Or, say the bailouts that, Oh yeah, Bush put together (TARP, GM…a couple of banks)... Or, say the whole Iraq War... Or maybe the other War that was just about forgotten for 4 years with Bush... Probably because the "Mission was Accomplished"... (Oh, he still spent Billions there too)
I’m not saying we should or shouldn’t have got to war in either place… I’m just making a financial point…
I would think that if Republican's take control over Capitol Hill... I would expect at least two new wars somewhere in the world that we would of course be in...
The point of this rant other than to point out what Republican's always seem to forget about (i.e. Bush) is that the problem isn't Democrat or Republican...
IT IS THE POLORIZATION OF THE TWO AND THE CREATION OF ANOTHER CLASS IN AMERICA.... THE POLITICIAN... Dems and Republicans alike are filled with professional Politicians... Their loyalty lies not with their constituents but with those who can get them re-elected. NOT WITH THOSE WHOME THINK THEY ELLECTED THEM. But with those that paid to get them elected. I say it this way because, when was the last time you walked in the grocery... Odds are you either bought or almost bought something that you totally didn't need. That is called impulse buying... That same impulse is fed by Politicians' advertizing...ehm... election campaigns...
They feed you utter nonsense that their pollsters told them would help them get elected. How many times from both sides of the aisle have you heard one thing and they did another? It's a bunch of crap... I have yet to meet an honest Politician or one that actually speaks their mind and not that of their writers'...
Alright, I'm sure some of you are thinking... well they leave a very hard life running around talking with everyone trying to get everyone's opinion on things so that they can make up their own mind... I don't know about you, but when was the last time any politician asked you how you felt about anything? Hell I've worked around a great many of them and ya know what... They don't do it... Their # concern is re-election!!!
If you can't tell I'm fed up with Politicians and both parties a little past the brim!!!
We should fire the whole lot of them and start over...
99% of the questions they are asked of them to solve could be solved in one session if... If!!! we had people in both chambers and the executive that had any ability to use their own commonsense!!!
There is compromise in everything people!!! And if you aren’t ready to find a common ground, guess what? YOU SHOULD NOT BE THERE!!!
Athenian Democracy had it right... If you wanted to be a citizen then you had to vote in their version of a congress. From there an individual was elected their "leader" After you term was up... a vote was taken, if you were voted to have done a bad job then you were kicked out of the country for 10 years... If you were voted to have done a good job... You then got to go back to being a citizen... There was actual accountability...
Let the Conservatives and Liberals bash away…
I hate to let everyone know…(Not realy)
I’m on both sides of the fence… I have conservative and Liberal views…
Like everyone who is honest with themselves does…
I thought I'd add...
Yeah, I know that there were many, many down sides of the Athenian Democracy... Only Male land owners... ect...
I was just picking out a very good part of their democracy...
And if anyone wants to know... The time period I would citing is around 500-200 BC Athenian Democracy.
Yeah, I know that there were many, many down sides of the Athenian Democracy... Only Male land owners... ect...
I was just picking out a very good part of their democracy...
And if anyone wants to know... The time period I would citing is around 500-200 BC Athenian Democracy.
Originally Posted by PatrickESJK
I being a republican have to say that since the democrates have a spending problem and they caused all of this that the republicans will soon have controll over capital hill!! Obama will be a one termer! He is a loser!!!!!!
I took an oath to support and defend this nation against foreign and domestic threats and to obey the orders of our President ands that's exactly what will happen. I'll wake up Monday and put my uniform on and go to work as a proud Naval Officer.
God Bless America and the brave men and women, past/present/future, who bear true faith and allegiance to this amazing Nation.
History has a lot too teach us and if we fail to study and remember we will fail. Look at some of the greatest empires in human history. All have failed, ours will be no exception if we dont start learning from our mistakes and not repeating history.
FYI, I was in the Navy last time they did this in 95 and we still got paid. No mater what the "F"ing media says. We will still get paid. Were not hourly were salery so its no big deal its all politics.




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