Should be some bypasses.. I've never been there, but we always have a good group of guys who will always help out.. A buddy of mine went in his stock 2wd Cherokee and was able to have some fun..

 

Ya I think that is the one.. There is a uphill right and then left that is much easier for a 2 door but I had to try to do a 3 point turn there with 6ft bolders on each side and rocks everywhere..

I really wanted new rocker protection anyway....

 

Crozet can be a "bad juju", but it all depends on the line you take and the conditions. You can go one day and make it through one of their trails and the next day it rains and forget about it. To me it is the best place to wheel around here, meaning Virginia, bar none. I have done the flagpole run a million times and that gets boring after a while. The good thing about Crozet is you can choose which level you want. They aren't going to dictate what you can/can't run. Unless your vehicle isn't up to their minimum requirements for a particular level, the trail guides will let you try whatever you want. Gives you a great opportunity to get to know the limits of your Jeep. I usually run "Blues" as I always have to drive mine home I have seen stock Sahara JK's on SRA's get through stuff that a lifted JK got stuck on. If you can't go that way then try this way

 

I could be wrong, but I thought some of the guys here were less than impressed with the trial guides/spotters that they were given that particular day.

 

I know I was when I signed up for one of the runs... Are trail guide took off, didn't warn us about a pyramid rock while coming over a hill (Karl got stuck)... I got hung up on a rock ledge and my spotter was too busy video taping instead of spotting me.... Maybe it has better trails, but I will not do it again unless I can choose the group of guys I run with in the group. Or at minimum, run with my normal wheeling buddies... I trust them and we help out everyone on the trail no matter what!

 

The "trail guides" that you refer to are volunteers that are there as a courtesy to your group. When they have an organized "group" they ask if trail guides are needed. Then they ask members of RCPFA if they would like to volunteer as "trail guides". So it is no different than me and you wheeling and me "spotting" you over an obstacle. They are really only supposed to "lead" you and not spot. If they get out and spot then that is a bonus to your group. I guess you have the right idea about getting some buddies that are comfortable "spotting" each other if you go back out there. That is why they only open the trails up once or twice a year for open wheeling.

 

I understand they are volunteers, but that's the point. They volunteer to "help" navigate the trail and offer assistance when needed because they usually know the trail. And yes, when I trail guide, I always stop and spot people. I'm just saying it could have been a bit more "friendly", or I could just be a disgruntled guy....:

 

On the few runs that I have done, the guide has always spotted for the group. That is the point of a "guide". They should be experienced and know the trail. Just like a hunting guide, they are there to spot for you and help you, not hunt. Just my 2 cents.

 

But, the point is that you pay a hunting guide, correct? If you had a friend take you out they would say, "the deer are over there somewhere" and probably go to another stand, right? At least the buddies that I go hunting with don't stay with me until I shoot a deer and hold my hand. They say, "good luck" and, "see you back at the truck". Like the other guy said it is probably best to take your buddies with you and spot each other. No blood no foul

 

Any meet and greets in Arlington?