Do me a favor please. just go back and read my post again. Thats what i said. was that if i am out and i see it, i do warn them. I ONLY call if people do not take the warning and continue doing what is wrong infront of me or i come across them in another area.

If someone directly in my group does something wrong i do only warn them. Im not at a$$ i give people chances, many infact! i have never called on someone i wheel with, becouse the fact that they agree when i tell them to stop and they do. The people i have called on are those i come across when im out wheeling alone or with my club or friends.

I wheel out there just about every wekend and for instance i was out wheeling yesterday too from about 10 to 3pm, and i garantee i was in way more mud and water than any of you found saturday afternoon when you went off alone. Mud was so thick i had no lights at night not even my kc's would shine thorugh it once it dryed. i had to find a wawa to get bottles of water and napkins to clean them off.

 

good article but sucks at same time. treehuggers use all of this to shut down wheeling. Wharton has tried to get the same paper to come out duing the clean up run in october to write an article on the other side of the story from our view but they ahve yet to do so.

 

Ok thats fine ill take your warning and listen to it but just you saying that you call if you see anything in the same post with two pics of my rig i just start to wonder what your up to. And when we went off on our own we had sooo much more fun wheeling then we did the entire couple hrs that we were following you. maybe you found more mud/water yesterday (most likely not) but We were exploring new trails and we had a blast and fyi i know plenty of trails out there that are legal to ride that have a huge amount of mud/water so your not the only one who goes out there to ride often

 

if you did not like the run sorry. but there were bone stock jks with drivers that had NEVER been off pavement with there jeeps and had no clue what they were doing. So when i saw this it basically turned into a ride set to be easy for a newbie. you want a good wet muddy run? come out next sunday! bring a full tank of gas, all your recovery gear and any provisions you need.

 

Thats cool that you were trying to help them learn but maybe next time show them what to actually do in a few more holes. The entire 3-4 hrs that i was in the convoy you brought them to only a few holes. Next time maybe show them a few more holes so they can actually learn a bit more. Most of the trails that you took were sightseeing trails, that were meant for a car to take. There are plenty of trails that stock can go through without any issues and see alott of legal water holes that would have been much better choices

 

well if you would have stuck around, they did go hit more water holes! I had to break off for my kdis personal reasons. they went the same way and on roads that you did when you left.

 

I know where they found water at after we broke off but that was during the last half hr of their journey. And iv seen that water before and we wanted to take diff trails, ones that they didnt get a chance to go on

 

im glad they and you found some. now if you want mud and water see you next sunday. wont debate this anymore. done.

 

Whos going out next sunday?

 

My club is going out.

no stocks allowed run.
snorkel & rasied breathers
must have recovery points front and rear
your own recovery gear
full fuel tank
32" rubicon tires min.
expierenced wheeling / no nubie's

Sorry to those nubies here, we only do a run like this 2-3 a year.