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Old Jan 12, 2009 | 03:30 PM
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I use my JK work work out in the field. Most of my radio communication is on the 153-161 MHZ range. I also wanted to do 2 meter operation without adding a second radio so I got a Motorola CDM 1550 it has 128 channel cap. Some are on my work channels and some on my 2 meter band.


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Old Jan 12, 2009 | 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by AK4Dave
Yes.....but if you are using a HAM radio which delivers more output, you will still have to limit the rf power output to 4 watts while tx'ing on the CB freqs....at least I think that's still all you are allowed (legally) on the CB freqs...???
Very good to know. I have to start reading stats on rigs, so I get the right one for me.

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gold tr8,

I passed my Technician Class FCC test on Saturday, 10 Jan 2009. It took about 30 hours of self study and taking 20 practice tests. It's not all that difficult. The hardest part is that you have to memorize many new terms and concepts. Like everything else, Amateur Radio has its own language. There are only 35 questions and the study material you can buy has all of the 395 FCC pool questions that could be asked on the test. But they only ask 35. I recommend that you go to Fry's Electronics and buy "Technician Class Amateur Radio Element 2 FCC License Preparation," Sixth Edition. It is by Gordon West. The cover is yellow & it will cost about $20. However, even better is the $35 package which includes a DVD with all of the practice tests and a copy of Part 97 of the FCC Regulations. Worth every penny. I finished the test in 10minutes and scored 94%. If you have any other questions, please feel free to send me a PM.
Congrats! I got the ARRL Technician class manual (latest version) I feel pretty comfortable with the info..being a tech nerd to begin with. Hope to find a local test offering for next month.
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Old Jan 12, 2009 | 04:52 PM
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OP, the CB + 10 meter radio will come in handy.

All of you new hams, congrats!

The ham radio licensing exam is pretty easy, and well worth the time and little bit of money it costs. It adds a whole new capability to your JK and off-road experience.

10 meter is nice, but the real value you'll find with your license is getting on local VHF and UHF frequencies, especially when off-road. While CB helps keep you in touch with your trail buddies that are close by, VHF and UHF amateur radio will allow you to keep tabs on base camp, get weather reports from folks back home, and call in help if needed. With my ham radio, when wheeling in the Colorado mountains where I don't get cell phone coverage, I still have excellent coverage to our many mountain top ham radio repeaters which link me to friends back home or other folks out and about. I can use an "autopatch" that allows me to make a telephone call over the ham radio. I can use APRS to beacon my GPS location, which makes its way to the Internet where my wife can keep tabs on my trail progress. And lots lots more.

Now that the test costs $15 for a 10-year license, and you have access to ALL of the questions and answers on the test before hand, Amateure Radio is growing in popularity, especially around off-roaders.

Keep in mind, ham radio has some rules, such as the before mentioned requirement to identify yourself (so people know who you are), and you're not allowed to use vulgar language, so it isn't for everyone (keep a CB handy for your raw talk). But the capability far outpases CB.
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Old Jan 12, 2009 | 06:37 PM
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Originally Posted by tambil68
Very good to know. I have to start reading stats on rigs, so I get the right one for me.



Congrats! I got the ARRL Technician class manual (latest version) I feel pretty comfortable with the info..being a tech nerd to begin with. Hope to find a local test offering for next month.
Being a "tech nerd" as you said, then the Tech test will probably be a breeze for you. What you might consider would be to study just a little bit more and go for the General class test as well. You can take them both at the same time if you want. Remeber, the question pool you will have access to are the same questions you will have on the test.....word for word. I cannot emphasize enough how much more freedom you will have as a General class operator. So if you are feeling real comfortable with the study guide, then by all means be sure and try for the General. In fact, if most of the HAMS giving you the test see that you aced the Tech test, will urge you to try for the General. When I took my General, and only missed 1, they said give the Extra a try....I did, but it's quite a bit harder, so I didn't pass. But at least I tried and could have got lucky I guess.
Something to think about.....
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Old Mar 16, 2009 | 07:38 AM
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It sure is getting thick with the modified radio threads.

You can not modify radios as you please and you can't use any Amateur bands to do business.

I posted links to the FCC rules in this forum a few minutes ago.

Please go read the rules about using 2 way communication radios. These are regulated and there are serious implications to not following the rules.
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Old Mar 16, 2009 | 06:17 PM
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BTW.....As stated in another thread, it is NOT legal for even a licensed HAM radio op. to use his HAM radio to transmit on the CB freqs. A ham radio is NOT type certified to operate on the CB channels. Also for those of you that do not have a license, and have a 10m HAM radio that is opened up for CB use, it is also illegal for you to use it, even if only on the CB channels.
Yes.....there is a very slim chance of you getting caught, but if you do, as stated, the fines can be severe. I did it for a long time, and then I finally got a letter from the FCC to "cease and desist". That's when I decided to get my HAM license.
But, I also just "heard" that the FCC is no longer enforcing this regulation. It now falls under city and state. So I guess what this means is if alerted, a city cop or state trooper can take the appropriate action..........whatever that may be. It could mean that if a cop looks to see if your radio is type certified for the CB bands, (there is usually a FCC sticker or stamp somewhere on the radio) and then asks you to show him your HAM license, and if you don't, maybe they can take if from you?....I don't know. Maybe someone else can either confirm or deny this.
Either way, it's worth being careful.
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Old Mar 16, 2009 | 06:27 PM
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So if I purchase a radio it is illegal if someone modifies it?

If a ham operator builds a radio on his own, it cant be certified so is that illegal?

Sounds like everything in life is illegal.

If you put an engine chip in your jeep it modifies your engine control system which can defeat your emission system controls, I would guess that this is illegal.

So whats more illegal a radio or a chipped engine?

I don't see anyone complaining about chipped jeeps so why is everyone complaining about radios, that can operate on multiple frequencies.

If I don't broadcast on frequencies I am not licensed to broadcast on how can that be illegal.

So now I can't use it as a listening device?
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Old Mar 16, 2009 | 06:47 PM
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Originally Posted by mdantonio
Hi! Be VERY careful with your use of this radio. As a Licensed Amateur Radio Operator (KC2GMH) it is illegal for me to transmit on frequencies that my radio has NOT been FCC approved to transmit on. I am authorized (by virtue of my Fire Chief / NYS Law) to transmit on our "fire frequencies" BUT only during a bonafid emergency and only using an FCC "Type Accepted" transceiver. Hence I need to carry (1) my Ham Radio, (2) my authorized high-band commercial radio, (3) my Cobra CB radio in my Jeep. We, as Licensed Amateur Radio Operators may modify and use COMMERICIAL radios in the Amateur Service as most commercial radios ARE FCC type accepted to operate within our frequency range although (unless specifically authorized or acting under a "life threatening emergency" we cannot operate on the frequencies we are not licensed to transmit on. Yep...it is a REAL PAIN but the penalties are too stiff for me to risk getting caught and fined (and potentially lose my Ham License) so it was my personal decision to follow the letter of the law. As an individual you will need to make your own cognative decisions. Not trying to appear elitest just passing on the law the way FCC Part 97 was explained to me. Take care and good luck... Mike KC2GMH
I agree. If the radio is not type certified for the CB band it would be illegal to use in that band for transmit.
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Old Mar 16, 2009 | 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by goldtr8
So if I purchase a radio it is illegal if someone modifies it?

If a ham operator builds a radio on his own, it cant be certified so is that illegal?
A HAM radio op can legally build his own radio for the HAM bands.

Sounds like everything in life is illegal.

If you put an engine chip in your jeep it modifies your engine control system which can defeat your emission system controls, I would guess that this is illegal.

So whats more illegal a radio or a chipped engine?

I don't see anyone complaining about chipped jeeps so why is everyone complaining about radios, that can operate on multiple frequencies.
That's the Feds for ya....

If I don't broadcast on frequencies I am not licensed to broadcast on how can that be illegal.

So now I can't use it as a listening device?
I feel your pain.... The reason it's so touchy is because what ends up/is happening, is people all over the world are using (and interferring) with freqs. that are intended for other uses.....ie, business, military, HAM, music radio, TV, etc... It is not impossible for a person to get ahold of a 50,000+ watt amplifier and reek havoc over the airwaves. Heck, you wouldn't believe what even 1000 watts can do.

It is NOT ILLEGAL for you to own the radio. You can own ANY radio you want. And yes, many people (that don't have licenses) buy "receivers" ONLY, which are not able to transmit. These radios are the real "listening devices" It is only illegal for you, (or me) to USE our radios other than they are intended. I COULD BE WRONG, (and somebody will probably tell me if I am) but in your case, without a license, and if you are really worried, if you were checked, I'm sure there would be no problem having it in your Jeep if there was no microphone hooked up to it or anywhere in the jeep. Here again, it would only be a receiver. I am in no way saying do this, as it is entirely up to you. I am only giving you that "possible" option.
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Old Mar 18, 2009 | 09:12 PM
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Originally Posted by goldtr8

So whats more illegal a radio or a chipped engine?

I don't see anyone complaining about chipped jeeps so why is everyone complaining about radios, that can operate on multiple frequencies.
Wouldn't interferrence or non-emergency use of a freq potentially keep emergency responders from their doing their jobs? That's more dangerous than a chipped Jeep.
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