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Sapper12b 10-09-2010 01:29 AM

Auxiliary Fuse Box
 
Well guys and gals after doing some serious reading and research I've come to the conclusion that I need an auxiliary fuse box. After looking at my wish list of things I want to buy for my JK I realized that most of them are electrical or electrical related so as not to put a strain on my existing wiring harness I need the auxiliary fuse box. I've been looking and looking but can't find a manufacturer or a website that sells them. So my question to the forum is, can you point me in the right direction as to find and buy an auxiliary fuse box and if possible offer some suggestions along the way?

Alec 10-09-2010 04:51 AM

This is what I used:

hxxp://www.oreillyauto.com/site/c/detail/BOR0/FB70.oap?keyword=fuse+blocks+%26+holders

I still have my high draw loads directly to the battery (winch, amp, compressor) but have my lights, cb, etc, to this block. They come larger and smaller. High quality unit but much cheaper than Painless.

Not the best or most elegant solution, but it works.

jmat1980 10-09-2010 05:04 AM

Here is my set up

I used a Bussman fuse/relay panel for a clean install.

The panel has 5 fuse/relay positions. I ran that to a 100amp circuit breaker for even more protection. I have windshield lights, bumper lights and a compressor wired to positions 1-3. Position 4 is ignition switched and goes to a second panel which is mounted under my glove box and used for lower power accessories like CB radio, GPS, etc… The 5th position is not currently being used…

I also have a third fuse box for my "rear" accesories that is run independently from the front one. The rear fuse box provides power for my rear mounted fogs, a aux power outlet mounted in the sub box and my alarm motion sensor mounted at the tailgate. It was cleaner to run one wire for rear fuse box rather than several wires for all my rear mounted accesories...

Here are some random pics from the install…

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DRILLING
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GROMMET DRILLED
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GROMMET
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FRONT WIRING
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WIRING
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QUICK CONNECTS FOR LIGHTS
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DRIVERS SIDE WIRING
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FUSE/RELAY WIRES
http://lh4.ggpht.com/_wPQLbvyDy9E/TE...0/IMG_0012.JPG
FUSE/RELAY PANEL
http://lh3.ggpht.com/_wPQLbvyDy9E/TE...0/IMG_0013.JPG
LOTS OF WIRES!!!
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CIRCUIT BREAKER
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100A CIRCUIT BREAKER
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SWITCH WIRING
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PANEL-INSTALLED
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PANEL-INSTALLED
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RELAY FOR REAR BACK UP LIGHTS
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PASSENGER SIDE WIRING
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FRONT AUX SWITCHED FUSE PANEL
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GPS HARDWIRED
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REAR AUX FUSE PANEL
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REAR POWER OUTLET ON SUBWOOFER
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Sapper12b 10-09-2010 05:17 AM

[QUOTE=jmat1980;1885213]Here is my set up

I used a Bussman fuse/relay panel for a clean install.

The panel has 5 fuse/relay positions. I ran that to a 100amp circuit breaker for even more protection. I have windshield lights, bumper lights and a compressor wired to positions 1-3. Position 4 is ignition switched and goes to a second panel which is mounted under my glove box and used for lower power accessories like CB radio, GPS, etc… The 5th position is not currently being used…

I also have a third fuse box for my "rear" accesories that is run independently from the front one. The rear fuse box provides power for my rear mounted fogs, a aux power outlet mounted in the sub box and my alarm motion sensor mounted at the tailgate. It was cleaner to run one wire for rear fuse box rather than several wires for all my rear mounted accesories...







Thats cool and you know what thats something i eventually and gradually progress too but my question to you is where did you buy your equipment from?

jmat1980 10-09-2010 05:57 AM

I cant remember where I got it, but I do have the site saved on my computer at home. The box was $90 and it came with all the fuses and relays and was all pre wired...

Sharkey 10-09-2010 06:08 AM

I'm in the initial stages of putting together something using a blue sea fuse box.

Vernnz 10-09-2010 06:35 AM

cooperbussmann.com/pdf/36090f1a-b434-4910-98ec-1870f1f2519d.pdf

Download that pdf. The ocntact info is at the bottom. Ask for Anthony. They normally supply to fleet customers but they do support individual retail sales also. They can also help you with the interconnects (Pins) and seals you will need to go with these. After you know what parts numbers you need or if you need to order some more there are places like Mouser Electronics and Newark Electronics that carry the pins and seals.

Sapper12b 10-09-2010 01:27 PM


Originally Posted by Mskh20 (Post 1885256)
I'm in the initial stages of putting together something using a blue sea fuse box.



I came across the BLUE SEA box's and i was wondering which one did you end up getting? :thinking: They have two different kinds the one with a negative bus and one with out a negative bus.

Sharkey 10-09-2010 02:04 PM

I'm using the one with the six spot with a negative bus, no cover. I will probably mount it inside a polycase. Right now I'm in the design phase and I'm looking for the right relay bank to add to the setup that will fit in the polycase, and I'm trying to figure out where I will put the case.

This will probably be a winter project for me.

Serg5000 10-09-2010 05:40 PM

You guy's might want to post were you are buying these fuse panels for the rest of us. I like the bushmans box. I'm hoping to get the info as to were it was purchased.

Sapper12b 10-09-2010 05:47 PM

I know, the whole point of this was to get some people to chime in where to buy these auxiliary fuse box's. The additional information and recommendations are very helpful especially the pictures.

RED_RUBI_07 10-10-2010 02:10 PM

I used a Painless setup. It comes prewired, with 3 constant hot terminals and 4 ignition hot terminals. You can get this set up with or without a cover for weather protection. I ordered mine without and mounted it in the passenger footwell on the firewall. I run my on-board air switches and pressure gauges through it. Seems to work just fine.

Sapper12b 10-10-2010 05:32 PM


Originally Posted by RED_RUBI_07 (Post 1886940)
I used a Painless setup. It comes prewired, with 3 constant hot terminals and 4 ignition hot terminals. You can get this set up with or without a cover for weather protection. I ordered mine without and mounted it in the passenger footwell on the firewall. I run my on-board air switches and pressure gauges through it. Seems to work just fine.




ok i have a question for you ? i noticed that the Painless had two different kinds of auxiliary fuse blocks, one is similar to yours and the other one runs i think all hot terminals. What would be the difference and why did you choose the one you have ? :thinking:

jmat1980 10-10-2010 06:28 PM


Thats cool and you know what thats something i eventually and gradually progress too but my question to you is where did you buy your equipment from
wagongear.com/WiredWagon.html

Last item on the page $85 plus shipping

soulsaege 10-10-2010 08:18 PM

http://www.quadratec.com/products/pr...ry+Fuse+Blocks

joe002 10-10-2010 08:19 PM


Originally Posted by Serg5000 (Post 1885932)
You guy's might want to post were you are buying these fuse panels for the rest of us. I like the bushmans box. I'm hoping to get the info as to were it was purchased.

This link may help: https://www.jk-forum.com/forums/show...ctrical-Hookup

splaash 10-10-2010 08:28 PM

$2.00 from junkyard
 
I went to the junkyard and took the fusebox/power supply of a small car... cost me $2.00.... complete with fuses and 6' of heavy guage wire... in the car it was mounted opposite side of the compartment as the battery... so it came with long positive & negative wire... already has fuses & relays:D

Sapper12b 10-10-2010 08:42 PM


Originally Posted by joe002 (Post 1887535)

thanks this is exactly the kind of write up i was looking for answers a lot of my questions. :thumbsup:


Originally Posted by soulsaege (Post 1887534)



All the times ive been on Quadratecs website i never knew they sold fuse blocks, thanks :clap:

RED_RUBI_07 10-11-2010 08:04 AM


Originally Posted by Sapper12b

ok i have a question for you ? i noticed that the Painless had two different kinds of auxiliary fuse blocks, one is similar to yours and the other one runs i think all hot terminals. What would be the difference and why did you choose the one you have ? :thinking:



I chose the mix of constant hot and ignition hot because there are going to be certain things I only want to be on if my vehicle is running. Example: auxiliary lighting, I would hate to accidentally leave high powered lights on to drain my battery. I have my on board air hooked up to a constant hot but it is controlled by a switch, so whether the jeep is on or off I can have air. So it comes down to what you want to be able to use only when the vehicle is on and what you want to be able to use even if the vehicle isn't on.

Gcollura 10-11-2010 08:49 AM


Originally Posted by RED_RUBI_07 (Post 1886940)
I used a Painless setup. It comes prewired, with 3 constant hot terminals and 4 ignition hot terminals. You can get this set up with or without a cover for weather protection. I ordered mine without and mounted it in the passenger footwell on the firewall. I run my on-board air switches and pressure gauges through it. Seems to work just fine.

X2 on the painless. I run the same one. I can show you next time I see you.


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Sapper12b 10-11-2010 08:58 AM


Originally Posted by Gcollura (Post 1888073)
X2 on the painless. I run the same one. I can show you next time I see you.


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GARY! you got the painless? youve been making me suffer all this time :thinking: Ok, well it looks like im going to bother you for your garage one more time and try to hook it up along with my CB i just ordered.

Gcollura 10-11-2010 11:39 AM

Yes I have the painless sorry did not know you were looking for a fuse panel. Just let me know when you want to come over.

Sapper12b 10-11-2010 04:27 PM

You're still the man Gary, still the man ... :2thumbs:

markbiv 10-11-2010 05:20 PM

Painless setup
 
Here is a pic of my setup. Got the painless block from 4wd.com and mounted behind the panel under the glove box. I added a couple of terminal blocks to clean up the install since I was only using two fuses at the time. I did have to fab a mounting bracket and spent a lot of time terminating and heat shrinking but in total took probably 3-4 hours.

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4127/...45efdd5efe.jpg

PainKiller 10-11-2010 05:39 PM

clean install :thumbsup:

Serg5000 10-11-2010 05:47 PM

Nice job. Looking forward to doing the install on my rig. I'm using the Bussmann relay and fuse panel.

membrain 10-12-2010 03:52 AM

I recently installed the Painless Wiring 7 circuit fused add-on. You can get it from almost anywhere... they also make a 3 circuit fused add-on.

iggy 10-12-2010 04:30 AM

You could always try Painless Wiring

markbiv 10-12-2010 06:02 AM


Originally Posted by Serg5000 (Post 1888845)
Nice job. Looking forward to doing the install on my rig. I'm using the Bussmann relay and fuse panel.

Thanks, this is great for in cab power for switches an accessories but I plan on installing the bussmann relay panel next in the engine compartment to power lights and possibly OBA

AZOverland 10-17-2010 07:55 PM

Low cost Aux Fuse Box
 
Got the fuse panel for $14 and the box from radio shack for $4.99 and had to buy some connectors and fuses so I have about $35 into it. Will allow me to add up to 8 fused therminals - would rather have had ring therminals but I don't think I will really have a problem with the push ons. You can still open the stock fuse box of course. I made a mount so the Aux. fuse box mounts to the dual battery tie down. It is very secure. Still took a few hours it install..... Now I need to clean up the solar panel install.

http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/...Fusebox001.jpg


http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/...Fusebox002.jpg

http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/...Fusebox004.jpg

Sapper12b 11-13-2010 12:44 PM


Originally Posted by hevnbnd (Post 1935826)
I found the painless block, but it does not appear to come with the terminial blocks. Where did you get those and what is their purpose? Thanks




Got mine at radio shack. I use one terminal block for ground wires and the second one I have it hooked up to the fuse block. so what ever I connect that requires power I just tap into the second terminal block ie... CB radio, lights, radio amp. If you want I can take some pics

JK4AER 02-22-2011 05:11 AM


Originally Posted by jmat1980 (Post 1885213)
Here is my set up

I used a Bussman fuse/relay panel for a clean install.

The panel has 5 fuse/relay positions. I ran that to a 100amp circuit breaker for even more protection. I have windshield lights, bumper lights and a compressor wired to positions 1-3. Position 4 is ignition switched and goes to a second panel which is mounted under my glove box and used for lower power accessories like CB radio, GPS, etc… The 5th position is not currently being used…

I also have a third fuse box for my "rear" accesories that is run independently from the front one. The rear fuse box provides power for my rear mounted fogs, a aux power outlet mounted in the sub box and my alarm motion sensor mounted at the tailgate. It was cleaner to run one wire for rear fuse box rather than several wires for all my rear mounted accesories...

Here are some random pics from the install…

Apologies for digging up an old thread, but I'm thinking about using this same fuse/relay box (the 5 position Bussmann from WiredWagon) to rewire my windshield lights and fog lights - I will eventually add some rear lights and rock lights. I have some basic stupid questions that I haven't been able to figure out from what I've read online:
1) How is the relay box grounded? I read that there is a master power line with an in-line fusible link. Is there also a master ground line? The wiring diagrams I've seen for this system show two wires for each position coming from the box - one for the device and one for the switch. Shouldn't there be a third wire for a ground?
2) If I wanted to have all of the positions ignition controlled, would I just run one wire from the M8/M9 blank fuse position and then tap onto that wire up to 5 times for all 5 switches that correspond to each relay?
3) How did you wire your Position 4 lower power fuse panel and what kind of panel is this? Did you put a switch on this?

I currently have two relays for my windshield lights and fog lights and two LED switches that are not ignition controlled. I just want to clean everything up and make it easier to add on for future items.

Thanks!!


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