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JK Junkie
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From: Central Georgia
Will the flasher relay for the LED signals affect the rear turn signal??
I know nothing about electronics, but if the relay is supposed to slow down the LED flasher, then wouldn't it slow down the stock flasher in the back??
EDIT: What about the location of the stock flasher in the instrument cluster?? How do you get to it and what type is it?? (3-prong, 2-prong, etc.)
EDITx2: What about the install of the Chevy headlights? Is there a special ring required? Any pics??
Thanks!!
I know nothing about electronics, but if the relay is supposed to slow down the LED flasher, then wouldn't it slow down the stock flasher in the back??
EDIT: What about the location of the stock flasher in the instrument cluster?? How do you get to it and what type is it?? (3-prong, 2-prong, etc.)
EDITx2: What about the install of the Chevy headlights? Is there a special ring required? Any pics??
Thanks!!
The lights should be the same overall diameter as stock.
Last edited by BLKRUBI; May 30, 2008 at 12:57 PM.
JK Enthusiast
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From: Tucson, AZ
Possible load equalizer solution
Well ... here's mine now - I just had to jump on the bandwagon. I love these lights.
Regarding the wiring itself, I wired the sidemarker lights so that they blink with the turn signal. I wired them this way: sidemarker black wire to ground wire of new blinker light w/butt-splice; sidemarker lighter-colored wire to the new blinker's turn-signal wire w/butt-splice. So, now I'm left with the sidemarker connector-plug just hanging there with no wires coming from it.
I think I accidentally came across a potential way to side-step the need for a load equalizer for the new LED turn signal. I notice that since I wired the sidemarker into the LED blinker, the flasher (under the instrument panel) seems to think there's adequate load with the incandescent sidemarker light and therefore blinks at the normal OEM rate. The reason I said "think", is because it only works about 90% of the time.
The other 10% is intermittent - sometimes the flasher will go double-speed and then later it will be fine with just another flick of the turn-signal switch. I can't figure out why it does this. Maybe someone else who's electrically savvy knows how find the answer. For me, I can live with it.
And, now I have some nice white driving lights underneath the headlights and still retain the clean bumper look - at least until I get a winch.
Regarding the wiring itself, I wired the sidemarker lights so that they blink with the turn signal. I wired them this way: sidemarker black wire to ground wire of new blinker light w/butt-splice; sidemarker lighter-colored wire to the new blinker's turn-signal wire w/butt-splice. So, now I'm left with the sidemarker connector-plug just hanging there with no wires coming from it.
I think I accidentally came across a potential way to side-step the need for a load equalizer for the new LED turn signal. I notice that since I wired the sidemarker into the LED blinker, the flasher (under the instrument panel) seems to think there's adequate load with the incandescent sidemarker light and therefore blinks at the normal OEM rate. The reason I said "think", is because it only works about 90% of the time.
The other 10% is intermittent - sometimes the flasher will go double-speed and then later it will be fine with just another flick of the turn-signal switch. I can't figure out why it does this. Maybe someone else who's electrically savvy knows how find the answer. For me, I can live with it.
And, now I have some nice white driving lights underneath the headlights and still retain the clean bumper look - at least until I get a winch.
JK Enthusiast
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 371
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From: Christiana, Tennessee, United States, United States
Well ... here's mine now - I just had to jump on the bandwagon. I love these lights.
Regarding the wiring itself, I wired the sidemarker lights so that they blink with the turn signal. I wired them this way: sidemarker black wire to ground wire of new blinker light w/butt-splice; sidemarker lighter-colored wire to the new blinker's turn-signal wire w/butt-splice. So, now I'm left with the sidemarker connector-plug just hanging there with no wires coming from it.
I think I accidentally came across a potential way to side-step the need for a load equalizer for the new LED turn signal. I notice that since I wired the sidemarker into the LED blinker, the flasher (under the instrument panel) seems to think there's adequate load with the incandescent sidemarker light and therefore blinks at the normal OEM rate. The reason I said "think", is because it only works about 90% of the time.
The other 10% is intermittent - sometimes the flasher will go double-speed and then later it will be fine with just another flick of the turn-signal switch. I can't figure out why it does this. Maybe someone else who's electrically savvy knows how find the answer. For me, I can live with it.
And, now I have some nice white driving lights underneath the headlights and still retain the clean bumper look - at least until I get a winch.
Regarding the wiring itself, I wired the sidemarker lights so that they blink with the turn signal. I wired them this way: sidemarker black wire to ground wire of new blinker light w/butt-splice; sidemarker lighter-colored wire to the new blinker's turn-signal wire w/butt-splice. So, now I'm left with the sidemarker connector-plug just hanging there with no wires coming from it.
I think I accidentally came across a potential way to side-step the need for a load equalizer for the new LED turn signal. I notice that since I wired the sidemarker into the LED blinker, the flasher (under the instrument panel) seems to think there's adequate load with the incandescent sidemarker light and therefore blinks at the normal OEM rate. The reason I said "think", is because it only works about 90% of the time.
The other 10% is intermittent - sometimes the flasher will go double-speed and then later it will be fine with just another flick of the turn-signal switch. I can't figure out why it does this. Maybe someone else who's electrically savvy knows how find the answer. For me, I can live with it.
And, now I have some nice white driving lights underneath the headlights and still retain the clean bumper look - at least until I get a winch.
JK Enthusiast
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From: Douglaston NY (Queens)
JK Junkie
Joined: Feb 2007
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From: Central Georgia
By the way, you guys that have these lights officially suck!
J/K, They look really good!I was the first one to do the fog mod and went another way with my turns(because of my HID's)....oh well. Wish I had those headlights now.
Last edited by BLKRUBI; Sep 3, 2008 at 11:13 AM.
JK Enthusiast
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From: Tucson, AZ
The only thing I had to do to each turn signal hole is drill pilot holes in the side 'flaps' of the turn signal pocket. You can see the screw near the top of the third picture below. The screws came with the lights since they also come with a bracket to do a surface mount - I just threw the brackets away.
As far as the wire loom, I just bought a 1/2" size and ran it zip-tied to the bottom plastic brackets on the grill itself - I had to drill holes in those grill brackets to run the zip-ties through.
Here's a general shot under the fender sideways & behind the grill...
Here's a closer shot
And a closer shot still.
JK Enthusiast
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From: Christiana, Tennessee, United States, United States
Is there an actual bracket on the back of the light because from the pics it looks as if you have screws through the plastic pocket kind of wedging it in so that it doesnt slide back. the lights you got are they pretty much a standard mounting type with out the surface mount or are they a special light in some way? I guess im still kind of confused as to how there mounted and secured, sorry to be a pain in the ass.
JK Enthusiast
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 147
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From: Tucson, AZ
Is there an actual bracket on the back of the light because from the pics it looks as if you have screws through the plastic pocket kind of wedging it in so that it doesnt slide back. the lights you got are they pretty much a standard mounting type with out the surface mount or are they a special light in some way? I guess im still kind of confused as to how there mounted and secured, sorry to be a pain in the ass.
The fog lights came with brackets and screws for each light. You would typically mount the brackets on something solid (bumper, metal grill, etc.) and mount the lights on the bracket, using the screws to pivet the light as needed. Then, tighten the screws to hold the lights in their position.
What I did is drill pilot holes in the location you described - the plastic 'pocket' that the stock turn signal lights mount to. Then I used the included fog light screws to attach the fog light. I was able to tilt the lights as needed and then tighten the screws. And you're done.
JK Enthusiast
Joined: Dec 2007
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From: Christiana, Tennessee, United States, United States
No worries. I should've taken pics during the install.
The fog lights came with brackets and screws for each light. You would typically mount the brackets on something solid (bumper, metal grill, etc.) and mount the lights on the bracket, using the screws to pivet the light as needed. Then, tighten the screws to hold the lights in their position.
What I did is drill pilot holes in the location you described - the plastic 'pocket' that the stock turn signal lights mount to. Then I used the included fog light screws to attach the fog light. I was able to tilt the lights as needed and then tighten the screws. And you're done.
The fog lights came with brackets and screws for each light. You would typically mount the brackets on something solid (bumper, metal grill, etc.) and mount the lights on the bracket, using the screws to pivet the light as needed. Then, tighten the screws to hold the lights in their position.
What I did is drill pilot holes in the location you described - the plastic 'pocket' that the stock turn signal lights mount to. Then I used the included fog light screws to attach the fog light. I was able to tilt the lights as needed and then tighten the screws. And you're done.