thinking about getting these and was wondering why there about $100 cheaper than every single website that sells them and do they fit any year jk





http://w ww.amazon.com/IPCW-LEDT-420CR-Ruby-Tail-Lamp/dp/B000NZSRLG/ref=sr_1_6?s=automotive&ie=UTF8&qid=1328231702&sr= 1-6

 

lights look really good. Ive also noticed a huge price difference with Amazon and other companies for example the Gibson dual exhaust is 100 dollers cheaper on Amazon

 

I found them at this site ww w.stylintrucks.com/parts/ipcw_led_tail_light/IPCTA7080/ipcwi11ledt420cs-.aspx

and had Quadtratec match with the free shipping, they checked the site and gladly matched

came in like 2 days....

Stay away from that Amazon seller - someone on here went that route and they took over 3 weeks, then they failed and had nightmares with warranty issue.

 

i have the lights. and i had to retrun three times because of water in the taillights
and one of the led burned out

 

I got mine from Amazon because after I read the forum about these lights is sounded like a 50/50 shot that you will get a good pair that works and won't let water in and Amazon has an AWESOME return policy. I am certainly glad I did... After 5 days being on the Jeep the driver side light got water on the inside of the lens and totally fogged up (the most common issue with these lights) and I am now on my second set. I exchanged without any issue from Amazon.

At first I called IPCW and they told me to "try and dry out the light with a hair dryer and put silicone on the back where it plugs in. If that doesn't work try to return it from where you bought it." I won't go into why I think that's a crapy answer and a crapy way to support your product... I will tell you that it is NOT the the back where it plugs in that is letting the water in.

On the set I have you can clearly see where the rubber gaskets on the plugs have seated on the light very tightly. On the light and there is not so much as a hint of moisture on the gaskets, the sockets, the wires, or where it seats into the light... It is my opinion that it is certainly NOT leaking water in from there. I have a USB microscope and decided to spend a few hours inspecting every square millimeter of these lights. I have found a spot where there appears to be a 2mm long and a .5mm high crack on the back of the lights where it looks like water pools. Yes, I found the same very tiny crack in the new ones as well. I can't prove that this is the spot that lets water in and I certainly can't repair it. (I won't get a chance to exchange if I tamper with it) With that said, I think the likely area where these lights are letting water in is the area where the lens seats to the housing of the light. There is a 1-2mm gap around 75% of the light that goes down to virtually 0mm along the edge where the side reflector sits. Obviously water can get into this area but there is a seam of sealant inside that... This sealant doesn't seem to be consistent thickness and it appears that there are tiny gaps where they are holes or gets the sealant gets extremely thin.

The last thing of note is that all these lights are numbered inside and the date of manufacture or inspection is stamped on the inside as well. My first leaking light was 0000118155 made or inspected on June 27 2011. My new light is 0000118149 made or inspected on June 27 2011.... I don't hold out much hope that the new set will not leak as well...

 

Update: The new IPCW lights are on and it's been raining. Driver side looks to be holding up OK. Yep... The passenger side has quite a bit of moisture in it. Disappointed by IPCW. I will swap out once more and see if that works. If it fails again I will ask for a refund from Amazon. I find it difficult to believe that IPCW isn't well aware of these problems and yet continues to sell without a fix or work around or backing their warrantee. (telling me to buy some silicone and seal the plugs that were not letting in any water anyway was absurd... But I was the stooge that did it anyway.)

I have been met with no small degree of resistance from IPCW when asking them to back their warrantee.

There reply?

"Go to where you bought them and see if they will do something, we don't do refunds or replacements."

So wait a minute... Why is their a warrantee to guard against defects then? My very expensive LED taillights have water in them, that's a big damn defect!

To my fellow Jeep owners, if you get and opportunity to buy some IPCW gear for your rig or somehow get the deal with them... Don't.

 

I have the same issue with my first set just like you do. The funny thing is when you call IPCW they act like they are surprised and they are just being made aware of the problem. The guy at IPCW actually told me to go buy some foam or rubber from home depot and cut out new gasket rings for the sockets. I was floored by his suggestion. Why in the world would or should I have to modify these brand new brake lights? Didn't I just pay good money for these? Any reputable company would replace them no problem. So back to IPCW. Then the customer service rep from IPCW tells me the same thing he told you about using silicone to seal the gasket rings. What a clown. Keep in mind hes telling us to modify our brand new brake lights that should be working just fine right? Finally he tells me to try to contact the place I purchased them from because they do not honor warranties direct. This just keeps getting better and better doesn't it. So I called newlevelmotorsports.com where I purchased them from and they had to get an RMA from IPCW. So they finally get back with me a week later and tell me to return the brake lights to them and they would return them to IPCW who would remove the moisture and reseal them. For real? That's the best you guys can do? I refused nothing less than a new set because you know as well as I do there is no resealing those. Once they are bad they are bad. To this day I still have yet to receive a replacement set and no communication from IPCW or newlevelmotorsports.com. I just wanted to put the word out because these lights are complete garbage and they have a moisture issue that has not been addressed to date. BUYER BEWARE******
DO NOT BUY THIS GARBAGE OR PAY OUT YOUR ASS FOR WORTHLESS SHIT******

 

Also stay away from newlevelmotorsports.com because they are about as good as IPCW when it comes to customer service and honoring warranties.....THEY DONT!!! Keep in mind these are installed on a 2012 Jeep Wrangler Sahara Unlimited that is valued at over 60K. They look great when they don't have moisture buildup which is hardly ever. LOLOLOL That's about all I can do now is laugh so don't laugh at yourself like me and stay away from these people.