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Old Feb 8, 2009 | 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by IMFletch
Come-a-longs will work for vehicle recoveries but I would not make a regular practice of relying on it to recover your JK. The forces involved in recovering a vehicle can easily exceed even a come-a-long rated at 8000 lbs. Recovering a JK that is lightly stuck in the snow can be done safely make sure you weigh down the cable so that if breaks, it is less likely to come flying at someone or your JK.

If you bury you JK in the mud and its badly stuck you better hope you brought Popeye along with you as Come-a-longs don't have low enough gearing to break the cohesive forces that are holding your 4,500 lb. JK in the mud. Come a long gearing is typically about 50:1 (theoretical) while winches average around 150:1 or more.

You are better off getting a quality snatch (recovery) strap and wheeling with a buddy or in an area where others are nearby, who can assist you if you get stuck. Most recovery situations can remedied with another capable vehicle/driver and a snatch strap.
8000 lb winch or 8000 lb come along are the same to me as a pound is a pound. Multiple tools available seem smart to me, never take stuff for granted when out wheeling.
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Old Feb 8, 2009 | 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by goldtr8
8000 lb winch or 8000 lb come along are the same to me as a pound is a pound. Multiple tools available seem smart to me, never take stuff for granted when out wheeling.
Well put...

Its better to have it and not need it, than need it and not have it...
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Old Feb 8, 2009 | 06:15 PM
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I have an 8000lb US made Come-Along, only used it once for a recovery on a 4x4 Dodge Dakota that tried turning around on a tight trail and got stuck in a rut off to the side.
I Couldnt pull him out because there was no way to get on the side to do a direct pull.

Had a tree saver on 1 end around a tree behind the truck and a recovery strap on the other end connected to the hitch, It took quite a few cranks but it gave him the few inches he needed to gain some traction, I cranked on it while he spun the tires and it worked out pretty good.

I dont think it would do great if you were burried to the doors in mud, but it will give you that foot or so to get some traction.
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Old Feb 8, 2009 | 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by jmat1980
Well put...

Its better to have it and not need it, than need it and not have it...
my ONLY point is they arent as safe as using a strap or winch, you have to be right there by the chain and cable.

so is it better to have it with you, use it and get hit in head and be knocked out while you are by yourself OR to call a friend to come help you with a strap if you are by yourself?
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Old Feb 8, 2009 | 06:58 PM
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always go with a buddy?
I have a jeep,winch, come/along,highlift jack,rope,chaine,shovel,axe.
so I can go when I want to not when I can get some one to go with me.
And by the way back a few years winches were few and far between and we
all had a come/along and got out of a lot of bad spots.
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Old Feb 8, 2009 | 07:01 PM
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Originally Posted by NTXJK
Stay away from the chain come alongs a good friend of mine this summer got caught with one in the face and knocked him out until we got to him, they work well but take your time with them or they will bite
Why stay away from chain come alongs? Did the chain break, or did the handle hit him in the head?
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Old Feb 8, 2009 | 07:05 PM
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Originally Posted by tkob1060
my ONLY point is they arent as safe as using a strap or winch, you have to be right there by the chain and cable.

so is it better to have it with you, use it and get hit in head and be knocked out while you are by yourself OR to call a friend to come help you with a strap if you are by yourself?
Its better to have it because the reality is that I am not always going to be with someone...

I have been moving alot in the past 6 years and unless I am back in my home town, I will most likely be alone since I dont know alot of people here...maybe not ideal, but its reality...its not always a perfect world...if it was, we would never get stuck
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Old Feb 8, 2009 | 07:24 PM
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well damnit come join us on the 21st down in the pines

https://www.jk-forum.com/forums/show...t=70802&page=3
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Old Feb 8, 2009 | 08:18 PM
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Originally Posted by tkob1060
my ONLY point is they arent as safe as using a strap or winch, you have to be right there by the chain and cable.

so is it better to have it with you, use it and get hit in head and be knocked out while you are by yourself OR to call a friend to come help you with a strap if you are by yourself?
I have to disagree alittle with a winch is safer. If the 8000 lb come along cable snaps it's going to create as much force as is an 8000 lb winch cable snaps. Make sure anytime you use anytype of steel cable under load that you wiegh it down with something ie a coat or sweat shirt even a towel. I see what you're saying about not being close to the cable when using a winch but a winch cable will take out a windshield if it breaks. Back to the point of the come-along. I carry one just to have like I said I'll use it for and anchor or if I just need a couple inches and the best way to get it is by pulling from the back then that's what I'll do. I do understand that there are times when wheeling with a buddy isn't always an option (hunting), but it should be done when possible.
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Old Feb 10, 2009 | 06:51 AM
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I have a 1500lb come along that I carry with me at all times it has been in service for clsoe to 5 years now and it has recovered lots of vehicles from places even where other trucks couldnt find the traction to give enough pull. You have to be smart with them and use them just to get into a new traction patch.
Dont over pull with the come along... it is a pain in the ass but re adjust often, gain a few inches then block the tires and re setup. If you are really stuggling to make any progress try a diffrent angle
These are much more dangerous than winches just due to the fact that you have to stand right beside the line/rope/chain or strap.
Personally I only use crane slings with Safe Working Load Rating of 25,000lbs or more.
I wheel often and alot of times it is just me and a friend in my vehicle and as long as I have a comealong I have never been truely stranded.

Also if you use your imagination and you have the right equipment a come along can also be used to steady a jack all when you need to use it in scetchy situations where the jack all could kick out.
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