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Old Jan 4, 2014 | 08:47 PM
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Originally Posted by BRUT4CE
Piggyback...
I winched this guy, had a buddy strapped to my rear bumper and it held .....

Brut, I hope you framed that pic. That is a great shot, buddy.
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Old Jan 28, 2014 | 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by jk_sea
Good info, and I'd agree...don't use the park pawl in an automatic transmission. Weak at best. Inside with foot firmly on brakes seems like a good place to be when winching. If you are on snow/ice and there are no fixed objects to push against, you're pretty much hosed.
Originally Posted by genesbro
If I had an auto I would put it either in R or N and hold my foot on the brake.
Hi Jeepers. New to this forum, but not to Jeeping or recovery. Since I just recently found this forum, I was reading through a lot of posts to get to know the forum a bit. Just for some background, like the Marine in another winching post, I was trained in vehicle recovery while on active duty and have done my share of recovering using an M816 and later an M936 wrecker. Sooo...

No flame intended to the posters I quoted so don't take it that way, but PLEASE don't do this! In the rare case of equipment failure, the cab of the vehicle is one of the most dangerous places to be. I understand sometimes chocks or large rocks aren't readily available and the use of the vehicle brakes is warranted. In that case, I carry one of these...

Irwin Quick-Grip Bar Clamp — 18 in. | Bar Clamps| Northern Tool + Equipment

...and use it to hold my brakes applied while winching. Reverse the clamp so it's a spreader instead of a clamp. Push on the brake pedal and put this in between the pedal and steering wheel, and add a couple of clicks. We have power brakes, so it doesn't take bottoming your brake to hold the vehicle, just moderate pressure. And this won't hurt your steering wheel. As a mechanic, I use this to troubleshoot all kinds of brake issues and it works well. Then you can exit the Jeep and winch away.

Also, your line of sight is very limited while inside the vehicle. Get out and watch what is going on. True, nothing wrong with using a spotter, but the spotter is YOUR second set of eyes, not your primary. IMHO you're the one with your finger on the trigger so to speak, so you should have the best vantage point for observing what's going on. One more point and I'll get off my soapbox. Stand as far away laterally as your winch control and the terrain allow.

Again, not flaming anybody, but I've seen equipment failures and I just don't want to hear about what should have been a fun day on the trail turn tragic.

Jeep-on, be safe.

John
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Old Feb 13, 2014 | 06:55 PM
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I winch in neural, parking brake on, foot on brake.

Reverse is a bad idea. To get maximum pulling power you need to idle up. i.e. push on the gas pedal. Several tuners, including hyper tech, have a winch feature and will idle up automatically when there is a high drain on the electrical system. I've tied off to a tree or another vehicle to keep from getting pulled towards the stuck rig.

As for helping stuck folks on the side of a road? I do it within my abilities. Be smart, be safe. Is rather get sued for scratching someone's vehicle than see them on the news later dead because I didn't stop. Pssssssst....that's what liability umbrella policies are for, super cheap. Look at liability riders/endorsements to protect you away from your home/vehicle.

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Old Feb 13, 2014 | 09:15 PM
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Originally Posted by 7kings
Wow dude. I hear what you're saying, but wow... I hate that we've become a society scared to death to lend a helping hand to someone in need. I pulled an elderly gentleman's Jeep Commander out of some sloppy mud he had gotten himself into on the side of the road the other day and he was beside himself with gratitude, talking about how many other people had just blown past him without a second thought. Pulling him free was a non-event and took all of five minutes. Best part of all? Neither of our vehicles burst into flames or spontaneously exploded. If I ever get stuck on the side of the road (or God forbid, need someone to administer CPR), I hope to hell that someone is willing to take the chance to give me a hand and not be too worried about whatever liabilities they may risk in the process... (Sorry if I sound like a dick - it's not aimed directly at you, but more at the pervasive attitude of "CYA" that has become so commonplace in the minds of so many) For myself, I'll keep helping people when I'm able. </self-righteous rant>
Well said. I couldn't agree more.
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Old Feb 13, 2014 | 11:37 PM
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Happened the other day on the highway. Guy asked if I could winch him out and told him I would pull him with a tow strap. If that didn't work, he would have to wait for a tow truck. Got him out with one pull. I only use my winch to get myself unstuck out in the woods, or help a fellow off-road.

Winching on the open road is too dangerous.
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Old Feb 14, 2014 | 12:42 AM
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You shouldn't be using a winch as a towing device in the first place. That's why we have tow straps. And always two in a forward gear.
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Old Feb 14, 2014 | 09:06 AM
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Originally Posted by CerOf
Several tuners, including hyper tech, have a winch feature and will idle up automatically when there is a high drain on the electrical .


Do you happen to know if the superchip has that feature? i have one where you can set the idle rpms but i dont know if it only does it under high drain or if it always kept that Jeep at the RPM level selected despite the electrical load
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Old Feb 14, 2014 | 09:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Croce
Do you happen to know if the superchip has that feature? i have one where you can set the idle rpms but i dont know if it only does it under high drain or if it always kept that Jeep at the RPM level selected despite the electrical load
Yes, mine does.
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Old Feb 14, 2014 | 09:19 AM
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Originally Posted by H8MUD
Yes, mine does.

Thanks for the reply! i didnt know it only kicked in the selected RPM under load. Im gunna go program my Jeep tonight since i finally have a winch. What RPM would you suggest for a RR8500 winch?
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Old Feb 14, 2014 | 10:30 AM
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Here in the north it could be a long time between vehicles, so most of us will stop if equipped properly. There are still lots of areas without cell service, so in the winter, stopping and helping makes a big difference. I have helped others, and others have helped me.
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