Maertz

1. Going from a 35" tire to a 37" tire give you 2 more inches of ground clearance.
2. Bumpstops are based on lift height.

offthewallsurfer

"Jeeps with automatic transmissions are not REAL jeeps" absurd!


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ABENDX

The title of this thread.



Or... if I can be frank (Why does one have to become Frank to tell the truth?), much of what gets defended and/or recommended on THIS website.

sm_rubi

Title? okay fixed it for those who keeping track at home!

planman

Rear chromoly axle shafts, gears, labor to install the gears, and an ARB locker runs maybe $2200.

A used stock non-Rubi rear 44 is worth maybe $600.

So, upgrade a non-Rubi rear 44, you are in it $2800.

A used, regeared Rubi 44 with chromoly axle shafts is worth about $1800.

A new rear G2/Currie Rock Jock 60 with 5.38s, ARB, with big bearings costs about the same as a Teraflex CRD 60 with ARB and 5.38s, about $3500.

But, not everyone needs to upgrade to chromoly shafts and a selectable locker...


Chromoly front axle shafts, an ARB, gears, and labor to install the gears in a Dana 30 runs maybe $2300.

A stock Dana 30 is worth maybe $450.

A used, regeared, Rubi front 44 with chromoly shafts is worth about $2,800.


Does it make sense to upgrade a non-Rubi 44 if you can find a used Rubi 44 for under $2000?

Does it make sense to upgrade a non-Rubi 44 when you can buy a Currie or Teraflex rear 60 for about $700 more?

Does it make sense to upgrade a Dana 30 if you can fine a used upgraded Rubi front 44 for $2500-$3000?

Does it make sense to upgrade a Dana 30 when you can buy a used upgraded 30 for $1200-$1800?


A high pinion 30 can handle 35s and larger locked on a light rig, but not on a 6000 lbs heavily 4 dr that is wheeled in the rocks.

I'd throw a high pinion JK 30 with chromoly shafts and a locker under a 3800 lbs TJ or a 4200 lbs 2 dr JK and run it with 35s without much concern.


I agree there is hyperbole in posts you see on forums because people take unique or limited fact patterns and impute them to all circumstances.

Maertz

I agree with you, many of these may have variables or extreme scenarios, but for the most part are true to 99% of the people.

As for axle costs the fronts are the pricy ones. Also depends on how much skill the said owner has, will he build a junkyard axle or have a shop...

robsjeep9

PLANMAN WROTE : A Couple of my favorites are: 1. By the time you beef up your stock D44 you are almost at the cost of a New 60. 2. A D30 front will not handle the stress of 35's or larger.
Rear chromoly axle shafts, gears, labor to install the gears, and an ARB locker runs maybe $2200.

Lol that quote is absurd here in Canada especially if you have to buy the ARB locker too.
You should have wrote USA only lol
Sorry Planman couldn't resist
$2200 is SHIPPING alone in Canada bahahaha

DunnyBunny

I'm assuming he meant the front 44. Could be wrong though. If he did then a front 60 is not cheap to say the least as we all know so he might be right.

Maertz

Planman quoted that not wrote it. He also said about in his prices, theres obviously variances per country.

planman

Yes. I quoted an earlier post in the thread regarding upgrading a non-Rubi rear 44 and a front 30.

My points included that in some circumstances, it might only cost an extra $700 to buy a new rear 60 over upgrading a non-Rubi rear 44, and buying a used rear 44 Rubi may cost less than upgrading a non-Rubi rear 44.

My points also included that upgrading a front Dana 30 may cost about the same as buying an already upgraded front Rubi 44, or a used upgraded front 30 may cost less than upgrading a stock 30.

The absurdity of what we read on forums is usually due to ignorance, over generalizations, or both.

For the fellow jeepers in Canada. if it costs $2000+ to ship an axle from the US, seems to me like it could make more sense to take a road trip with your jeep to the US, swap axles, and drive home. No?