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JK TalkGeneral discussion forum regarding thoughts, opinions and rumors about the Jeep JK Wrangler or related subjects that don't quite fit in the Modified, Stock or Electronics forums.
I bought a 2010 JKU last year. It has been a battle since day one. I bought it knowing all of the original suspension parts were worn and needed replaced; ok, no problem. At purchase, I was told the Jeep had a body lift only, and that all suspension parts were stock. So, I replaced ball joints, track bar, tie rods, u-joints, drag link, upper and lower control arms, front and rear shocks, you name it. I did initially replace with all OEM. Since then, I’m on my third set of ball joints, and second tie rod in 6,000 miles. After replacing my last tie rod, I had it aligned and have attached the printout. So far, it has been confirmed that I do not have a bent axle housing, no bent C’s and my frame is not bent. I know the camber is not adjustable, but should I make the attempt at some type of correction with a set of offset ball joints? Should I try adjustable control arms to just help the caster, and forget about the camber? Should I do adjustable track bars, front and rear? Something all together different? I’m at a loss.
Bubbino, you really have not stated what the issue is. 1" 2" or 3" body lift? stock coils we assume? tire size? still running stock control arms? you have done a pretty good job explaining what you have done let us know what your problem is
My apologies - I did not make mention of the issues. So, the Jeep sits noticeably funny (which I now realize is my camber issues). It pulls to the right while driving; sometimes subtle, sometimes a hard pull. I get a slight vibration under my feet and in the wheel at higher speeds. And I get a sway back and forth (not a death wobble) while driving. All the parts I put on where stock OEM. I am running stock control arms. The body lift I was told was an inch. I never checked the measurement, but I’d suspect what I was told is correct. So, I don’t know what to make of the camber issues, especially since I had the axle, C’s, wheel bearings and frame check. That’s why I’m wondering if I should try the offset ball joints, adjustable track bars and adjustable arms?
Bubbino, even with the 1" body lift your suspension is still stock. Adjustable control arms would be of no value at this time (maybe in the future if you decide to to added lifted coils). Adjustable trac bar might have some value to ensure the axle is proper positioned laterally (side to side). You have not mentioned tire/wheel balance. What steering stabilizer is installed (sometimes can cause a pull to one side) still the stock one? offset ball joints IMO at this time would not gain you much of anything. I am at work so don't have access to your attachment regarding the alignment, is the camber setting out of factory tolerance?
Total Toe Caster Cross Caster Camber (Fixed Angle) Cross Camber Preferred + 0.20° (0.10° each front wheel) + 4.2° 0.00° - 0.25° 0.00° Range + or - 0.03° + or - 0.5° + or - 0.50° + or - 0.37° + or - 0.50°
REAR SPECIFICATION
Total Toe Thrust Angle Camber (Fixed Angle) Preferred + 0.25° 0.00° -0.25° Range 0° to .5° +/- 0.25 0° to -.50° *Notes For reference only. These are nonadjustable angles. TOTAL TOE is the sum of both the left and right wheel toe settings. TOTAL TOE should be equally split between each wheel on the same axle to ensure the steering wheel is centered after setting toe. Positive toe (+) is toe-in and negative toe (−) is Toe-out.
XJ - I am running 33s, load E tires. Tire wear seems to be good, but I am also very anal about rotating all five every 4,000 miles when I do an oil change. As for balance, I made sure all were still balanced when I got this alignment sheet back. The steering stabilizer is still the stock stabilizer. It may be ignorant on my part, but I figured if I had the geometry of everything else right then I wouldn’t really need to worry about it. My camber numbers are way out of factory spec. My caster is also out of spec, but not by an amount as significant as the camber. But the shop also says that there is no bent axle, no bent frame and no bent Cs. I also had the wheel bearings checked and they are good. This is why I’m at a loss as to what would have everything so thrown off, and why I’m eating ball joints every couple months, literally.
Jay2013jk - I agree. I just don’t know what else to look at since it’s been confirmed that there’s no bent axle housing, no bent Cs, no bent frame, wheel bearings are good and control arms aren’t bent. Idk what else could be tweaked or what else needs to be looked at?
I would check my area for a Jeep specialty shop for a re check for something bent Given the issue perhaps a shop that specializes in JEEP repair, installations of Modifications would be worthwhile; yep it is most likely going to cost for them to take a look.
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