Dealership refusing to provide bill of sale
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I ordered my '08 Rubicon on Saturday, forgot to get a copy of the bill of sale. Went to get it today, and the sales guy says that the bill of sale is not finalized so he can't give me one until the date of delivery. They have my $500 deposit, but I have no paperwork supporting the sale. This is at Renfrew Chrysler in Calgary, Canada. I'm insisting on a Bill of Sale and not getting anywhere. Am I out of line in any way insisting on a Bill of Sale and asking for a firm $ figure owing at time of delivery?
In the US, the paperwork you're referring to is called a "Buyers Order", although it may go by a different name in Canada it still performs the same function. It is a printed form the dealer provides that contains their name/logo/address etc. On it they write your name/address/etc, and then put in writing the agreement between you, the Buyer, and them, the Dealer, specifying a particular vehicle make, year, model, color, options, and selling price. Once signed by both You and an authorized representative of the Dealer, this becomes a binding contract for Them; they must sell you the specified vehicle at the specified price. For you, this contract is not binding, you have the Option of purchasing that vehicle at that price. Should you choose not to follow through with the purchase, the Dealer may be allowed to keep your Deposit, depending on your applicable laws.
Without this Buyer's Order, there is no written contract, and the dealer is not legally bound to sell the Jeep to you at the agreed upon price. They will order the vehicle with your name on it, because a Sold Order will get built/delivered to them quicker than a regular Dealer Inventory Order. But once that Jeep arrives, they are free to screw with you over the price, raising it as high as they want.
Go back to the dealership, ask to speak to the General Manager, and tell him/her that you want your sales agreement in writing.
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I think they have done business in this ridiculous way so long, that they don't know how to do it any other way. In a sense, Saturn got it right with fixed, no haggle pricing.
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Oh get this, after much arguing, I had him fax the buy order (which is grossly incomplete), and it says I'm buying an '07 Jeep Rubicon... for an '08 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon Factory order.
I'll be asking for me deposit back today. As they say in my business, fraud is in the details.
I'll be asking for me deposit back today. As they say in my business, fraud is in the details.
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I ordered my '08 Rubicon on Saturday, forgot to get a copy of the bill of sale. Went to get it today, and the sales guy says that the bill of sale is not finalized so he can't give me one until the date of delivery. They have my $500 deposit, but I have no paperwork supporting the sale. This is at Renfrew Chrysler in Calgary, Canada. I'm insisting on a Bill of Sale and not getting anywhere. Am I out of line in any way insisting on a Bill of Sale and asking for a firm $ figure owing at time of delivery?
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Oh get this, after much arguing, I had him fax the buy order (which is grossly incomplete), and it says I'm buying an '07 Jeep Rubicon... for an '08 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon Factory order.
I'll be asking for me deposit back today. As they say in my business, fraud is in the details.
I'll be asking for me deposit back today. As they say in my business, fraud is in the details.
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I have nothing in writing from them, which is weighing on me. Perhaps not a Bill of Sale, but a finalized price in writing with a signature from the sales manager or something, something showing the deposit paid, and the amount due upon delivery, it would be nice. I also did not get a VON# yet.
Maybe what I'm looking for is a purchase agreement signed by them with the price on it.
Maybe what I'm looking for is a purchase agreement signed by them with the price on it.
This is to make sure whoever entered the order on the system, entered it right - not like mine - I order a 4 door and here comes in a 2 door..... DARN! Salesman fault & sales manager fault too...