Diesel!?
02-15-2013, 01:55 PM
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The engine they would be putting in it now is 3.0 liter making 420ftlbs so its not the same engine as the ones in the older GC or the same as the ones in europe
02-15-2013, 03:41 PM
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It was offered in 07 and 08. During those years it made up less than 8% of GC sales. Most reviews said that it was nice, but at a base of 39k (6 years ago mind you), you might as well buy the Mercdes Benz the engine came from. The vehicle was dropped after only 2 years because Daimler-Chrysler did not want to find a way to utilize the $4000 exhaust system to pass new regulations.
Again, I am sure you and your neighbor enjoy them, but people obviously weren't lining up for them.
02-18-2013, 03:41 PM
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I've got a diesel in my 2012 UK Overland auto. It's needed here in the UK as fuel is rather expensive, filled up today and it 145.9 per litre 50uk pounds is about half a tank.
02-18-2013, 03:52 PM
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GC hasn't cooled. They sold more than JK and at a higher price. I don't see where they sold over 150k in a while. I'd say that's success.
Supply and demand. I guess we will be waiting on the JK.
02-18-2013, 06:58 PM
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There's NO confirmation on which diesel the wrangler will get, but they have said multiple times that it will come in the next generation, which leads me to think they will engineer the next one to fit the 3.0 and it's fancy exhaust. Alot of people post on here about how much they want one and will buy one. But many do not realize that it's been their mantra to only put the diesel in the top trim line as well. So you are looking at a Rubicon or Sahara with a $4500 option. The price to play will be north of $40K. And it still won't get 25 mpg judging by the GC's numbers unless they REALLY clean up the aerodynamics.
I see the 3.0 as Chryslers answer to CAFE 2016 in the trucks and SUV's. Right now the hemi is dirt cheap versus the diesel but as 2016 approaches I can see them ratcheting up the price to subsidize the diesel roll out and to balance their cafe score. It offers about a 20% improvement over the hemi but really isnt that much better than the Pentastar. I kinda expected more mpg's but if I read right both engines in the GC with the 8HP and 4x4 get 25 mpg. So for $4500 you get a slower, more complex ride that sucks more expensive fuel. These aren't gonna offer the payback of something like a Jetta diesel.
I see the 3.0 as Chryslers answer to CAFE 2016 in the trucks and SUV's. Right now the hemi is dirt cheap versus the diesel but as 2016 approaches I can see them ratcheting up the price to subsidize the diesel roll out and to balance their cafe score. It offers about a 20% improvement over the hemi but really isnt that much better than the Pentastar. I kinda expected more mpg's but if I read right both engines in the GC with the 8HP and 4x4 get 25 mpg. So for $4500 you get a slower, more complex ride that sucks more expensive fuel. These aren't gonna offer the payback of something like a Jetta diesel.
02-19-2013, 12:52 AM
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There's NO confirmation on which diesel the wrangler will get, but they have said multiple times that it will come in the next generation, which leads me to think they will engineer the next one to fit the 3.0 and it's fancy exhaust. Alot of people post on here about how much they want one and will buy one. But many do not realize that it's been their mantra to only put the diesel in the top trim line as well. So you are looking at a Rubicon or Sahara with a $4500 option. The price to play will be north of $40K. And it still won't get 25 mpg judging by the GC's numbers unless they REALLY clean up the aerodynamics.
I see the 3.0 as Chryslers answer to CAFE 2016 in the trucks and SUV's. Right now the hemi is dirt cheap versus the diesel but as 2016 approaches I can see them ratcheting up the price to subsidize the diesel roll out and to balance their cafe score. It offers about a 20% improvement over the hemi but really isnt that much better than the Pentastar. I kinda expected more mpg's but if I read right both engines in the GC with the 8HP and 4x4 get 25 mpg. So for $4500 you get a slower, more complex ride that sucks more expensive fuel. These aren't gonna offer the payback of something like a Jetta diesel.
I see the 3.0 as Chryslers answer to CAFE 2016 in the trucks and SUV's. Right now the hemi is dirt cheap versus the diesel but as 2016 approaches I can see them ratcheting up the price to subsidize the diesel roll out and to balance their cafe score. It offers about a 20% improvement over the hemi but really isnt that much better than the Pentastar. I kinda expected more mpg's but if I read right both engines in the GC with the 8HP and 4x4 get 25 mpg. So for $4500 you get a slower, more complex ride that sucks more expensive fuel. These aren't gonna offer the payback of something like a Jetta diesel.
Diesels are not complex. all the emissions they cram all over it make it that way but once the warentee is gone ide strip all that off it anyway so its not much of an issue.
02-19-2013, 02:12 AM
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02-19-2013, 02:23 AM
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About 10 % of the world population is not allowed to buy a diesel wrangler and a lot of other vehicles equiped with them around the world.