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I figured out why our Jeeps have so many issues?

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Old Sep 23, 2010 | 07:01 AM
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Default I figured out why our Jeeps have so many issues?

Because the UAW workers at Jeep/Chrysler are getting drunk and high on their lunch break!

This is a serious safety concern when people building vehicles that people need to depend their lives on are doing this..

Make sure you watch the video at the bottom after to you read the article.

http://jalopnik.com/5645880/auto-wor...h-during-lunch
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Old Sep 23, 2010 | 07:07 AM
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dont worry our jeeps are mostly made by machines, they are in charge of quality control and installing a couple of components. Well that represents our change he promised, j/k but damn thats some serious stuff !

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Old Sep 23, 2010 | 07:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Hellbound13
Because the UAW workers at Jeep/Chrysler are getting drunk and high on their lunch break!

This is a serious safety concern when people building vehicles that people need to depend their lives on are doing this..

Make sure you watch the video at the bottom after to you read the article.

http://jalopnik.com/5645880/auto-wor...h-during-lunch
By all means, sell you UAW built Jeep and by a Toyota. Oh ya don't buy a Toyota as well because Toyota Management hides the fact that there is safety issues that has killed people. You know that this is BS. You are just trying to find a reason to slander the UAW. Just because there are few dumb asses out of thousands of auto workers does not mean that the quality or safety is bad or that Chrysler/UAW promotes this kind of behavior. First of all, I highly doubt that security would allow a camera crew to video workers on breaks without permission and there is no evidence to support that they were on Company property or even on a lunch break. Actually, what makes this even more BS is how do you hide a large ass video production crew and van where the workers being video taped could obviously see and furthermore the workers who were caught looked staged. This is what you get for watching Fox News. Regardless, just because it has been shown that Ministers or preachers have raped little boys, do you stop going to church? Probably not. Keep in mind that if it was not for the Unions in this country you and your kids would be still working in slave factories were Management put chains on the doors to keep workers in the building and there was no such thing as a vacation, paid holiday, bathroom breaks. Don't attempt to slander those who have died to fight for the rights of working people. Let's get educated on the facts and not the BS.
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Old Sep 23, 2010 | 08:39 AM
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OMG, dont even get me started on Unions. Outdated, overpaid bunch of whiners. It is partially the UAWs fault Detroit is becoming ghost town. Slave factories?
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Old Sep 23, 2010 | 09:14 AM
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No surprise. The local GM plant in my area, Lordstown, Ohio, had one of the largest drug busts a few years ago. Police arrested several workers doing cocaine in the parking lot. I have a buddy that works there and told me of a guy that totaled three cars LEAVING the plant on three different occasions. The guy was fired three times for that but always got his job back because of the UAW. Another friend used to work at the same plant and got layed off when everything started happening to the economy. Doesn't drink or do drugs, not even smoke. UAW didn't help him.
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Old Sep 23, 2010 | 09:24 AM
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Old news. I lived in Detroit, this kind of stuff happened in the 70, 80, 90, 00 and will continue. Heck, Living there you knew not to buy a car that was made on a Monday/Tuesday/Friday. Monday, coming back from the weekend party. Tuesday, hangover from the weekend party. Friday, lets get an early start on that weekend party.
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Old Sep 23, 2010 | 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Family-JK
By all means, sell you UAW built Jeep and by a Toyota. Oh ya don't buy a Toyota as well because Toyota Management hides the fact that there is safety issues that has killed people. You know that this is BS. You are just trying to find a reason to slander the UAW. Just because there are few dumb asses out of thousands of auto workers does not mean that the quality or safety is bad or that Chrysler/UAW promotes this kind of behavior. First of all, I highly doubt that security would allow a camera crew to video workers on breaks without permission and there is no evidence to support that they were on Company property or even on a lunch break. Actually, what makes this even more BS is how do you hide a large ass video production crew and van where the workers being video taped could obviously see and furthermore the workers who were caught looked staged. This is what you get for watching Fox News. Regardless, just because it has been shown that Ministers or preachers have raped little boys, do you stop going to church? Probably not. Keep in mind that if it was not for the Unions in this country you and your kids would be still working in slave factories were Management put chains on the doors to keep workers in the building and there was no such thing as a vacation, paid holiday, bathroom breaks. Don't attempt to slander those who have died to fight for the rights of working people. Let's get educated on the facts and not the BS.
How anyone can defend these guys just amazes me.

I'll tell you what. I have worked at Chrysler plants and saw the same sh*t years ago.....people drinking on the line while working and going out for lunch breaks and getting hammered. So don't give me this B.S......You can't believe this...you can't believe that crap. Wake the f**k up!!!

My wife also works at a party store, in the vicinity of a GM plant. Her busiest time of day is lunch break when all the GM employees come in to buy beer. Not one or 2 beers...they buy at least a 12 pack and ask for it in paper bags, so that it's concealed and they can bring it into the plant when they go back to work, where they continue to drink on the job.

So don't be coming around and spewing your nonsense when I have a lot of personal experience with this B.S. Now that someone has actually put it on tape...all of a sudden these azzholes are the victims right??? F**K YOU!!!

If these smucks didn't have the Union hide behind them, then they would actually be held accountable for their actions, just like the rest of us are who work hard and don't f**k around on the job. Instead, when they actually get caught they may get a suspension...but then get "back pay" from the Union...which equates to a paid vacation. The UAW is currently in a state of failure. It's about time someone exposed this B.S., so the rest of us who actually want to work for a living can get jobs and get rid of these bums.

Hopefully, this is something that finally gets the UAW to get their sh*t together and stop protecting these bums who are helping to ruin our economy for the rest of us.

Here's the actual video, which I posted earlier in another thread.
http://www.myfoxdetroit.com/dpp/news...ed_20100923_dk

Go ahead....defend these guys....make them out to be victims.....then go F yourself.

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Old Sep 23, 2010 | 10:12 AM
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Uh oh, Hellbound. Don't you realize that you're now going to be part of the Jeep hater club that I apparently started? No one gave you permission to be unhappy with the build quality of your JK. Go hang yourself. Oh and buy a Honda.
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Old Sep 23, 2010 | 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by 08RedRecon
OMG, dont even get me started on Unions. Outdated, overpaid bunch of whiners. It is partially the UAWs fault Detroit is becoming ghost town. Slave factories?
Okay let's get started. Following the industrial revolution workers were in fact locked in by chained doors, were not allowed to take breaks and so on. It is a fact that hundreds of women were burned, in NY, due to the fact that Management chained exits and a fire started which did not allow the workers to exit. It is a fact that Management has beaten and some have been shot attempting to gain the right to be respected in the work place. Oh yes it is in our history and I could go on. It is a fact that every NON-UNION worker in this country has benefited from the Labor Movement. You claim that Unions are outdated. It is true that Unions have gotten weaker and smaller, but have you also noticed that all industries are now paying less, conditions are getting worse. Companies do not feel they have to benchmark after the UAW or other Unions and are now gearing up to model wages after standard industrial projections in the area you live. It is a proven economical fact that when workers make more money, our economy grows and business make profits. Unions have fought to keep this standard alive as Companies have looked for ways to destroy any kind of middle class. This is why Companies are moving into low wage or poor states, because they now you will work for Sh*t. If Unions were gone I would bet your pay and benefits would drop like a stone, and if you think your not effected because you might be a salary worker I beg to differ. There are thousands of salary workers in this country who are unionized under a contract. You would not have money to buy modifications to fix up the Jeep. Your being foolish if you doubt me. Companies are moving out of the US, because Union have lost their political strength to keep them here. GM has admitted and same with John Deere that their companies have benefited because of their Unionized labor. Detroit is a gost town because Detroit was building cars that nobody wanted to buy and they were making crappy Management decisions. The strength of the Union has kept companies building in the US. You must think that every other country is non-union when in fact we have less unionized labor than most. Japanese, German and Australian workers are feeling the same impact as the U.S. as companies feel the need to move there business to poor countries where they can get away with slave shops. Your thought process is to destroy the unions and lets allow Companies to make us into Mexico. Not to say there is not unionized labor in Mexico, but it is very small. I have no problem debating, but obviously we agree to disagree. I'm sorry to say that I will be the one that said "I told you so". The UAW also was a large part of the Civil Rights movement for women and minorities in this country. Yes it is a fact that Martin Luther King used the UAW's union halls to hold meetings. It is a fact that the UAW bailed Martin Luther King out of jail for marching on the streets. It is also a fact that the UAW paid for the first street sign honoring Cesar Chavez in Detroit, and the UAW fought with Cesar Chavez in giving rights to thousands of migrant farm workers who were treated like crap. Yes I do say slave shops.

No worker is above the law or what is written in a contract. All auto contracts , and most for that matter, clearly state that a worker will be terminated or suspended during an investigation if under the influence of drugs. There is no Arbitrator in the world that would agree to keep a worker employed if in fact they were drunk or high. And Unions are not above the decision of an Arbitrator.
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Old Sep 23, 2010 | 10:53 AM
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Yes, all those things are facts. Notice how all those things that you mentioned are what the Union has done in the past. It's time to look at what the Union is doing "Now" instead of living on what they did in the past and why they where needed.

Now the Union is abusing the company that actually pays them. They are no better today than what the companies did in the past. In the past it was the company abusing the workers....now it's the Union abusing the company. NEITHER is right.

The reason these workers are even able to get away with something like this is because of the Union. They get suspended without pay as a punishment and then the union is so good to them, that they turn around and give them "back pay" to compensate them. That's called payed vacation for doing something wrong in my book.

Read 20JK10's story....this is a typical "Union" handling of a situation. I've seen the same kind of sh*t myself working in the Detroit area. I'm sure We ALL can share our bad Union stories of how the workers are now abusing the power the Union gave them and the Union is there to support them.

Originally Posted by 20JK10
No surprise. The local GM plant in my area, Lordstown, Ohio, had one of the largest drug busts a few years ago. Police arrested several workers doing cocaine in the parking lot. I have a buddy that works there and told me of a guy that totaled three cars LEAVING the plant on three different occasions. The guy was fired three times for that but always got his job back because of the UAW. Another friend used to work at the same plant and got layed off when everything started happening to the economy. Doesn't drink or do drugs, not even smoke. UAW didn't help him.
Stories like this have nothing to do with "civil rights" and all the things the Union did in the "past". Let's talk about stories like this one which is going on everywhere with the Unions "Today"......Today....not 50 years ago....Today!!!
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