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TURTLECON 08-01-2011 11:55 PM


Originally Posted by Carl Spackler
I feel so ashamed... :naw:

<img src="https://www.jk-forum.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=189257"/>

What wheels are those? I like em! :2thumbs:

Saharaunlmtd 08-02-2011 02:32 AM

When I drove my Sahara off the lot, it came with bigger tires and gears than the x model, but I guess that makes it a mall crawler in comparison to an X model, jeez...

Raven31 08-02-2011 02:34 AM

I've always been a Jeep lover and only recently bought my first jeep. I bought it used and to be honest I didnt care at all what type it was...rubi, sport, x whatever in the end it really doesnt matter because its the soul you put into the jeep. Its how you make it come alive. I think for most of use whatever model we have its all just a base for our beast to come alive. I love my Sahara

HeyBob 08-02-2011 02:39 AM

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Nope not a mall crawler. More like my dogs personal taxi. He's always got me going to the trails, dog parks or pet store!!! Sadly he also put the first scratch on the door. Although that only encouraged me to one up him on a densly wooded trail!

John_B 08-02-2011 03:23 AM


Originally Posted by ChryslerChris (Post 2440816)
No offense to the guys and gals who use their Saharas for offroading and doing the JK name proud (you're definitely excluded from this generalization), but I can't help but think that the Sahara and it's matching colored hard-top, fenders and chromed out bumper accents were just MADE for the soccer moms and I-ain't-into-that-Jeep-culture-thingy people out there? :gak: Hey have to keep the brand profitable, right? :dontknow2:

Hmm....... A Sahara is a Mall Crawler? :?:
Well then I love my Mall Crawler!



ChryslerChris 08-02-2011 03:35 AM

Whoa. Started this thread before going to sleep and woke up to a hornet's nest! LOL

Honestly, nothing against Saharas. I'm actually targeting a JKU Sahara with matching fenders and hard top for my wife for whenever her Commander breaks down (insert plans for sabotage here). She'll probably like the luxury of a Sahara over a broke ass college kid Sport anyway. But a Rubi would be too 'lux. Don't want anyone to think we're looking down on anyone or anything :wink:

Skid_Kid 08-02-2011 03:54 AM


Originally Posted by ChryslerChris (Post 2441336)
Whoa. Started this thread before going to sleep and woke up to a hornet's nest! LOL

Honestly, nothing against Saharas. I'm actually targeting a JKU Sahara with matching fenders and hard top for my wife for whenever her Commander breaks down (insert plans for sabotage here). She'll probably like the luxury of a Sahara over a broke ass college kid Sport anyway. But a Rubi would be too 'lux. Don't want anyone to think we're looking down on anyone or anything :wink:

Ok what is wrong with a Sport? I bought it cause I thought it was a waste of money to buy all the bells and whistles just to take them off and have them replaced with aftermarket parts!

EzK 08-02-2011 04:13 AM

The majority of Jeep owners don't take theirs off road so I just most as mall crawlers, not just Saharas. But I do hate the Cole matching.. Just not my style but whatever floats your boat! As long as it gets used I appreciate your ride!

speed2005 08-02-2011 04:15 AM

https://www.jk-forum.com/forums/show...85#post2441385

JkHauler 08-02-2011 04:18 AM


Originally Posted by ChryslerChris (Post 2441336)
Whoa. Started this thread before going to sleep and woke up to a hornet's nest! LOL

Honestly, nothing against Saharas. I'm actually targeting a JKU Sahara with matching fenders and hard top for my wife for whenever her Commander breaks down (insert plans for sabotage here). She'll probably like the luxury of a Sahara over a broke ass college kid Sport anyway. But a Rubi would be too 'lux. Don't want anyone to think we're looking down on anyone or anything :wink:

really? You have a way with words.. I was preapproved for $47,000 at Troncalli Jeep and Dodge. this is my 5th round of owning a jeep wrangler, I didn't need power windows or doors or even the overpriced mygig that people seem to hate more and more... As they literally opened up the show room floor doors to roll out a "custom" rubi that had every bell and whistle on it, I spotted an X sitting by itself with 1 mile on it. I do my own upgrades and I do my own mods, and I'm quite certain my X is far more capable of doing what I need it to...

http://sevenslat4x4.com/photopost/da...ulches-TNT.jpg

webejeepin 08-02-2011 04:22 AM

I drive a Sahara, stock, and wheel on light trails. Bottom line proud as hell to drive a Jeep, I love them all regardless of model, trim, color....

Goeagles88 08-02-2011 04:35 AM

Wow...guess you got you were looking for by posting such a contentious thread.
:naw:

TMJK2007 08-02-2011 04:36 AM


Originally Posted by Bonedoc (Post 2441188)
Does this look like a chrome bumpered mall crawler to you?

What's up with that? So all of a sudden we are hating Saharas. I'm tired of hearing that the only good wranglers are Rubicons...blah..blah...blah. Bottomline they are all wranglers...just some different bells and whistles.

We all buy what we like, or can afford. Then we make it our own. That is the beauty of a Jeep. They are an extension of our personality, like all of us they are similar but unique and different.

Not to mention I've seen plenty of Saharas and X/sport that would go anywhere any Rubicon could and more, again, depending on how it is built and the driver of course.

Ummm, I see some chrome on the very top of the grill :wink:

Well said though

TMJK2007 08-02-2011 04:38 AM

Just thought I'd share my Mall Crawler

https://www.jk-forum.com/forums/atta...hmentid=183474

And my not getting into Jeep culture

https://www.jk-forum.com/forums/atta...hmentid=180328

nathanmares 08-02-2011 04:44 AM


Originally Posted by webejeepin (Post 2441398)
I drive a Sahara, stock, and wheel on light trails. Bottom line proud as hell to drive a Jeep, I love them all regardless of model, trim, color....

I also drive a stock Sahara. Got caught in a rain storm yesterday with the top and doors off. Got soaked had to pull the plugs to drain it. It really didn't bother me at all. I would love to to some mods some day but just don't have the money for that right now. I don't see how because some of use don't put a ton of money into mods we are no longer in the "cool" crowd with some that do. A Jeep is a Jeep, Stock or completely mod, doesn't matter. why do you hate on a stock Sahara so much? What about other models, TJ, YJ? Is a JKU Rubi the only Jeep a person can own. Get over your self....

moalder 08-02-2011 04:51 AM

I better not see any of you modded Jeeps at my mall! :rock:

benny 08-02-2011 05:04 AM


Originally Posted by ChryslerChris (Post 2440816)
the Sahara and it's matching colored hard-top, fenders and chromed out bumper accents were just MADE for the soccer moms and I-ain't-into-that-Jeep-culture-thingy people out there? :gak: :

Who's got the coolest soccer Mom, the Mom with the CRV? The Expedition? The Tahoe? I think the Mom with the Jeep is the coolest.

dowayno 08-02-2011 05:10 AM


Originally Posted by uber (Post 2440826)
no offense to the people who buy the Sport and mod it to the max.... but isn't the Sport MADE for poor college kids or factory workers who can't afford anything better but need to feel they are part of a gang so they can look down on others?

problem with all these "no offense" posts is they are deliberately intended to do just that... :wink:

ha ha ha ha ha ha ......:thumbsup:

No offense.....

uber 08-02-2011 05:10 AM


Originally Posted by jsears (Post 2441111)
I got the point just fine. I just wanted to post pictures of the Jeep!

:thumbsup:Now there's a Jeeper! Good on ya!

WhosUrBuddiee 08-02-2011 05:14 AM

Same BS I deal with will all the retards that say race cars cannot look good either. People seem to think it is always Form vs Function and fail to realize that some people desire both. What is wrong with having a properly painted race car whose bumpers are not held on with zip ties or having a nicely painted jeep to romp through mud?

Basically it comes down to the fact that those who cannot have, simply hate on those who can.

JkHauler 08-02-2011 05:22 AM

i think he got his daily dose of crow.. He can call it what ever he likes, he can build walls but we can tear them down :D Jeep in itself is a culture and a passion. Most people when they buy a product that's faulty, they don't get another. Not us.. We go get another and another and another.. Maybe not the smartest financially sound idea, but what other culture will let you go rock crawling, destroy your rig and a guy you've never met in your life: Helps you by towing your jeep home 200+ miles just to get you home.. At the race track, a car up on a lift is a sign of defeat. A jeep broken, an owner stranded because his daily driver was wheeled so hard that weekend, and everyone who walked past offered their help. you only find that in our culture bud, doesn't matter if you drive a rubi, sahara or a X. I think most of us no matter the level of mods know more about this culture than you could ever imagine, because we eat breath and live to do what we do ;)

I'm one deep mofo :rock:

cybersymes 08-02-2011 05:50 AM


Originally Posted by uber (Post 2440826)
no offense to the people who buy the Sport and mod it to the max.... but isn't the Sport MADE for poor college kids or factory workers who can't afford anything better but need to feel they are part of a gang so they can look down on others? ***

problem with all these "no offense" posts is they are deliberately intended to do just that... :wink:

***SARCASM btw

Great reply...I need to read no further... :thumbsup:

Jack Sparrow 08-02-2011 05:56 AM

I kinda wish I got the Sahara I was initially looking at, but at the time I didn't like the painted fenders. now i'm diggin them and the
big 18 inch wheels :D

Ryan0260 08-02-2011 06:10 AM


Originally Posted by ChryslerChris
No offense to the guys and gals who use their Saharas for offroading and doing the JK name proud (you're definitely excluded from this generalization), but I can't help but think that the Sahara and it's matching colored hard-top, fenders and chromed out bumper accents were just MADE for the soccer moms and I-ain't-into-that-Jeep-culture-thingy people out there? :gak: Hey have to keep the brand profitable, right? :dontknow2:

Truly a stupid comment

ChryslerChris 08-02-2011 06:11 AM


Originally Posted by JkHauler
really? You have a way with words.. I was preapproved for $47,000 at Troncalli Jeep and Dodge. this is my 5th round of owning a jeep wrangler, I didn't need power windows or doors or even the overpriced mygig that people seem to hate more and more... As they literally opened up the show room floor doors to roll out a "custom" rubi that had every bell and whistle on it, I spotted an X sitting by itself with 1 mile on it. I do my own upgrades and I do my own mods, and I'm quite certain my X is far more capable of doing what I need it to...

I'm just playing with the line of jokes on this thread about Sports being only for broke ass college kids. FYI I ride a Sport and am proudly emptying every pocket modding the crap out of it :thumbsup:

TMJK2007 08-02-2011 06:14 AM


Originally Posted by benny (Post 2441477)
Who's got the coolest soccer Mom, the Mom with the CRV? The Expedition? The Tahoe? I think the Mom with the Jeep is the coolest.

Very true! If I ever decide to become a mom you can bet I'd never be driving a van! Jeep all the way :thumbsup:

ChryslerChris 08-02-2011 06:19 AM


Originally Posted by moalder (Post 2441456)
I better not see any of you modded Jeeps at my mall! :rock:

That comment made me laugh :rotflmao2::rotflmao2::thumbsup::beer:

Bonedoc 08-02-2011 06:35 AM


Originally Posted by JkHauler (Post 2441512)
i think he got his daily dose of crow.. He can call it what ever he likes, he can build walls but we can tear them down :D Jeep in itself is a culture and a passion. Most people when they buy a product that's faulty, they don't get another. Not us.. We go get another and another and another.. Maybe not the smartest financially sound idea, but what other culture will let you go rock crawling, destroy your rig and a guy you've never met in your life: Helps you by towing your jeep home 200+ miles just to get you home.. At the race track, a car up on a lift is a sign of defeat. A jeep broken, an owner stranded because his daily driver was wheeled so hard that weekend, and everyone who walked past offered their help. you only find that in our culture bud, doesn't matter if you drive a rubi, sahara or a X. I think most of us no matter the level of mods know more about this culture than you could ever imagine, because we eat breath and live to do what we do ;)

I'm one deep mofo :rock:



AMEN!! Well said!!:beer:

ChryslerChris 08-02-2011 06:55 AM

Lighten up everyone! :)
 
Aww come on guys and gals. Gotta lighten up a little. I know for a fact that everyone on these forums are Jeep enthusiasts and that we all love our Jeeps. You’re reading this posts and others for a reason – we all have the same passion, right? But I know for a fact that Saharas were designed specifically to appeal to the non-niche crowd – to basically bring in the people who originally thought the Jeep was too “rough” for use as an everyday vehicle. In truth, the JKU was designed for the exact same reason too.

As a prime example, my wife is somewhat of a girly girl who happens to love Jeeps. She loved my Liberty, drives a Commander and is absolutely thrilled with my modded Sport. (we both hated the Patriot, but who doesn’t?) But she would not drive a Sport or Rubi. For someone like her, a color matched JKU Sahara is THE PERFECT vehicle for her. She probably would never own a Wrangler any other way. I’m 100% sure that once I “accidentally” wrap her Commander around a tree on a solo grocery run someday, a red JKU Sahara is her replacement.

Now I know and respect the ones who buy a Sahara to wheel with and treat it as any other Jeep. That’s just awesome :thumbsup:. A Jeep IS a Jeep – they are all capable.

But with “designed for the mass market” vehicles like the Sahara, it will inadvertently draw in non-traditional customers as well. It has happened to Porsche with the introduction of the 944’s and Boxter, or even the Cayenne. I have a slight issue with those people – they truly don’t get it. No waves, snotty, gives you dirty looks because you modded your Jeeps. It’s like folks who go to a Kid Rock concert wearing suits and evening dresses. No offense :wink:

uber 08-02-2011 07:18 AM

http://belieber.files.wordpress.com/...if?w=446&h=279

181 08-02-2011 07:21 AM


Originally Posted by JkHauler (Post 2441392)
really? You have a way with words.. I was preapproved for $47,000 at Troncalli Jeep and Dodge. this is my 5th round of owning a jeep wrangler, I didn't need power windows or doors or even the overpriced mygig that people seem to hate more and more... As they literally opened up the show room floor doors to roll out a "custom" rubi that had every bell and whistle on it, I spotted an X sitting by itself with 1 mile on it. I do my own upgrades and I do my own mods, and I'm quite certain my X is far more capable of doing what I need it to...

He was joking about the guy with H2 look-a-like JK 70th anniversary model saying that Sport model were for broke college kids and factory workers. OP has a sport himself.

Deviations 08-02-2011 07:22 AM

So let me get this straight; Some guy on his way home from his bank job isn't supposed to like Kid Rock?


When I was a kid (13 or so), I used to get pissed off at the rich adults with expensive skis, a matching ski outfit, complete with color matched Hanson boots.

I felt that they didn't have any right to have more expensive gear than I did because they couldn't ski as well - I was a competitive racer who had to mow lawns all summer to pay for the next season's gear.

I don't feel that way any more. Why? To put it bluntly, I grew up. Who am I to judge how other people spend their money? Some lady wants to by Lange World Cups because she likes the 'crazy blue' color? Who cares. Maybe they'll be the boots that help her get hooked on speed and she'll push herself to be a better skier, or maybe they'll collect dust. Either way who cares?

I got my Sahara because I drive 25,000 freeway miles a year and much fewer off road. It came with leather seats (which I love becuase they feel great and the dog hair doesn't stick to it), the 4x4 is unstopable on the way to the ski hill, the top comes off, and it tows my jet boat. But further more, I'm sick of defending the purchase. Most of the Jeep community is fun and a pleasure to be a part of. I wave at every wrangler I see (even if most don't wave back unless I have my doors off). Sometimes, however, this elitist crap really drains the fun out of it.

The_Yeti 08-02-2011 07:26 AM

hrmm only "luxary" that came with my sahara was infinity sound system and keyless entry. i got mine because i wanted the upgrade sound, tow package, limited slip. the price was right. and now it just confuses people with black bedlined fenders and a "sahara" sticker:clap:

they let me take it for a weekend test drive.. I trashed it! they didnt realise to get to my garage involved a bit of muddin when its wet!... so i was mudding with my Sahara before it was even mine.

PG-JKU 08-02-2011 07:35 AM


Originally Posted by ChryslerChris (Post 2441717)
But I know for a fact that Saharas were designed specifically to appeal to the non-niche crowd – to basically bring in the people who originally thought the Jeep was too “rough” for use as an everyday vehicle. In truth, the JKU was designed for the exact same reason too.

Keep digging yourself deeper, man. Needing more room in my jeep and actually appreciating having 4 doors for my kids makes me less of a jeeper than you? I can actually appreciate the difference between my old 92 YJ and the JKU. Sounds like you should be driving the YJ and bragging to everyone how leaf springs on all 4 corners is the only real way to go.

Dang, I fed the troll.

uber 08-02-2011 07:41 AM


Originally Posted by 181 (Post 2441768)
He was joking about the guy with Minivan look-a-like JK 70th anniversary model saying that Sport model were for broke college kids and factory workers. OP has a sport himself.


Originally Posted by 181 (Post 2441768)
He was joking about the guy with H2 look-a-like JK 70th anniversary model saying that Sport model were for broke college kids and factory workers. OP has a sport himself.

:rotflmao2:... make your mind up.... looks more like a G-Wagon than an H2 in my opinion....

I am incredulous that I have to justify the blatant sarcasm in my comment.... sarcasm is the lowest form of wit ....and I used it intentionally so that even someone from Tex-ass would get it....:doh: Remember my friend...better a witty fool than a foolish wit...no offense as you guys like to say....

PEACE

SilverJK12 08-02-2011 07:57 AM

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This is a stupid thread! I have a sahara an use my "mall accessories" with the sahara for good use. I love them! I installed a backup camera for the nav system so I can see when I am in a tight spot backing up over rocks. It is because my spare 35 soon 37 is too big to see around. Yea I have the painted CHOPPED fenders to give more room to flex! I like my upgraded sound system. I hate autos ( luxury IMO) so bought a manual cause that's driving a jeep to me. I have probably added more mods in lights, suspension, winches , skid plates , axle upgrades than 90 percent on this forum.

So to make this title of this thread is just ignorant.....

Ohhh better not buy a 2012 rubicon !!! Or ya gonna get hands free radio controls to listen to Justin beiber on the way to the mall! Lol And no my sahara doesn't even have that. Lol

181 08-02-2011 07:57 AM


Originally Posted by uber (Post 2441808)
:rotflmao2:... make your mind up.... looks more like a G-Wagon than an H2 in my opinion....

I am incredulous that I have to justify the blatant sarcasm in my comment.... sarcasm is the lowest form of wit ....and I used it intentionally so that even someone from Tex-ass would get it....:doh: Remember my friend...better a witty fool than a foolish wit...no offense as you guys like to say....

PEACE

So by your own admission your post was "witty"...hmm. Also making direct link between a persons intelligence and location is the highest form of stupidity, so your spanning the whole range of human intelligence in just a couple of posts, Congrats. At any rate I wasn't the one confused. And yes in my opinion the 70th anniversary JK's do look like H2s. Why does that offend you. You bought the thing, not me. I don't care what you spend money on. Now I don't understand why you would pay the price premium to have leather, painted everything, and wheels and tires from a minivan on a distinctly off-road vehicle. Maybe you like the color? I don't actually care. Anyways, yay Ontario! Happy now?

jeepmont 08-02-2011 08:05 AM

I have been noticing alot more men and women 70+ driving JKU Saharas lately. This 75 year old man the other day had at least a 4" lift and 35's. I think Jeep needs to look into a geriatric version JKU and leave the Sahara to the soccer moms. The geriatric version could sport a large handicap emblem on the hood so they dont need to have the handicap pass hanging on the rear view. No offense old people but your youth was gone centuries ago. Stick to a cadillac or buick. :yup:

PG-JKU 08-02-2011 08:09 AM


Originally Posted by jeepmont (Post 2441853)
I have been noticing alot more men and women 70+ driving JKU Saharas lately. This 75 year old man the other day had at least a 4" lift and 35's. I think Jeep needs to look into a geriatric version JKU and leave the Sahara to the soccer moms. The geriatric version could sport a large handicap emblem on the hood so they dont need to have the handicap pass hanging on the rear view. No offense old people but your youth was gone centuries ago. Stick to a cadillac or buick. :yup:

Is this thread drawing out the stupid in everyone? If a 75 year old guy wants to rock a lifted jeep - all power to him. At least his jeep is probably paid for, and he has more experience wheeling in his little finger than you will ever have, especially with that attitude.

Runewolf1973 08-02-2011 08:18 AM

In stock form, yeah... I don't really care for the mild mannered look of the Sahara's and their painted fenders and minivan tires, but that's just my opinion. I just like the look of more aggressive looking Jeeps, but that doesn't mean the others are any less of a Jeep. For whoever said that a Jeep should be manual....there's nothing wrong with an auto. In fact there was an article in JP magazine were they went on a trail run with something like 50 JK's and only 2 were actual manual transmisson. Apparently the auto's do well on the rocks. Out of those 50 plus Jeeps, a good number of them were modded out Sahara's too. The Sahara's can definitely rock it!:rock:


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