I'm bored and came across an article on the new viper which says this:

"To help the driver maintain control, the 2013 Viper is fitted with stability and traction control (both fully defeatable, says Gilles) along"

WTF can't they make it defeat able on a JK?!?!?!? I guess they're saying "You can drive like an ass and drift a 640 hp sports car, but I'll be damned if you can properly drive in mud/ snow/ sand in the most capable off road vehicle in the world"

I'd be pissed if I couldn't do a proper burnout with my viper but why should we suffer? Lol "and that ladies and gentlemen is what grinds my gears"

 

It's probably as "fully defeatable" as the JK's ESC.

 

The mainstream nor their grandmothers will never own a Viper with 650 HP.... and therefore won't have an opportunity to kill themselves after turning off stability and traction control.

Clear to me ...

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Just do the steering wheel dance, that's what I did and with esc off the jk is drivable in all conditions! Especially in snow!

 

Yup, though it is a PITA to turn it back on if you wanted too.

 

In a 2012?????

 

Didn't think it worked in newer models

 

Bump for steering wheel dance on 2012?

 

I tried to do it in my 2011 and I could not get it done.

 

What are you talking about? Steering Wheel Dance?