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Old Dec 1, 2007 | 07:34 AM
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I had a hell of a time finding winter tires I liked, but finally bought some US made Toyo M-55s. I had to drive down from Montreal to the US to pick them up, but it was well worth it since the US made M-55s are pinned for studs. These tires are used extensively by commercial fleets and working pickup trucks out west and up north. They easily last 80k or more and many owners sipe them. There are siping machines that exist, but there none in Montreal, so I had to hand-sipe mine. Hand-siping also does a better job, supposedly, because you can stay away from the edges of the lugs. Automated siping machines are just a big cork-screw cutter that cuts 1/2" wide sipes along the tread circumference.

The first step in hand-siping is getting yourself a 250 watt 'heated knife' off eBay or elsewhere. It has to be very hot before using, so clamp it in a vise and wait a good 15+ mins. The top section should start glowing red - then it's ready to use. :-) I had to use some flash here, so the red glow doesn't show up very well.



The Toyo M-55s can be siped deeply if you're not pulling a heavy trailer, so I set the depth of the blades to a little less than 3/8" (12/32"). People that haul trailers may opt for 1/4" instead and sipe the tires again once the first sipes are nearly worn off.



It'll take a good 30-45 mins to sipe each tire. It also takes some effort to push the heated knife through the rubber. My plan is to take it easy and sipe one tire per day. :-) The heated knife kit should come with a dozen blades or so, and you may need to change the blade each time you use the knife. They bend back a bit (so you loose a bit of depth) and seem to become brittle after they cool down.

I opted for 6 cuts (3 passes of the knife) per center lug. I think this is fairly reasonable for a winter-only tire. If I was running this tire as an all-season, I would probably go with 4 cuts (two passes) instead. Although sipes are excellent for traction on wet surfaces and ice, they can chunk when rock crawling off-road and/or driving long distances on gravel roads. For this same reason, you should not sipe the edge lugs. As I mentioned earlier, you don't want to cut too deep if you're pulling a trailer. The Toyo M-55s are well known for their ability to take deep sipes without chunking, but other tires may not be as resistant. I used a silver marker here to show the pattern I used.



And here's what it looks like after it's been siped. Excuse the dog hair - hot rubber seems to be very good at picking it up off the carpet. :-)



There you go - pretty simple. Here's where I start, and then do another pass on each side for a total of 6 sipes.



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Old Dec 1, 2007 | 07:46 AM
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cool man, I may look into this for the next time on some M/T tires.
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Old Dec 1, 2007 | 07:58 AM
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Originally Posted by ez__rider
cool man, I may look into this for the next time on some M/T tires.
If you don't need studs, then you should look at the TrXus MT. It's already siped and is reported by many to be a very good winter tire.

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Old Dec 1, 2007 | 08:08 AM
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I am consistantly amazed at the amount of patience we Jeep owners have with our mods and wanting to get them just right. I've been on other forums for other vehicles and I swear, the most common thing I read was "I just didn't feel like taking the time to do it, so...."

Nice work, I hope they do well for you!
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Old Dec 2, 2007 | 05:45 AM
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I did my BFG M/T yesterday by hand with a utility knife I did 4 of the 5 I was burned out by the fifth.
20 minutes per tire and also did tire rotation, I'll do the spare when i'm bored someday and when it is warm out.
-10*F here.

this is a worth while mod for snow belt used M/T tires

I tried to go up a snow cover pasture hill in 2 wheel with rear axle locked prior to siping couldn't do it reached a point and just spun tires
did it after siping same place different tracks and made it all the way no issues.
I'm happy with this mod!
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Old Dec 2, 2007 | 06:11 AM
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Originally Posted by WRAITHYJEEP
I did my BFG M/T yesterday by hand with a utility knife I did 4 of the 5 I was burned out by the fifth.
20 minutes per tire and also did tire rotation, I'll do the spare when i'm bored someday and when it is warm out.
-10*F here.

this is a worth while mod for snow belt used M/T tires

I tried to go up a snow cover pasture hill in 2 wheel with rear axle locked prior to siping couldn't do it reached a point and just spun tires
did it after siping same place different tracks and made it all the way no issues.
I'm happy with this mod!
Excuse me for asking a dumb ass question, but what does siping actually do?
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Old Dec 2, 2007 | 06:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Woody611
Excuse me for asking a dumb ass question, but what does siping actually do?
Check this out. Explains it well.

http://www.discounttire.com/dtcs/tireSiping.dos
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Old Dec 2, 2007 | 06:35 AM
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Originally Posted by hurstrescue
Check this out. Explains it well.

http://www.discounttire.com/dtcs/tireSiping.dos
Thanks, I had never heard of it.
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