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Old Jan 20, 2011 | 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by interceptor_1972
That's good to hear since I'll be changing my RC 4" to a Teraflex 4" here soon. Wanted to make sure that I didn't lose the lift because of the added weight of the bumper, winch, 35s in the back, etc.


Let me know how this works out, if you don't mind. I think I've come to the conclusion of going with weld-on Teraflex Spring Perch (will need a professional welder to do it *waiting to see if Screamin Lizard will do it *). Here's what I'm thinking of going with:


are those spring perches set at a 10 degree offset angle ? If not then you might still need the wedges unless they weld them on to offset for the spring bow, something to ask anyway .the guy at rough country i talked to said my stock spring perches were off around 10 degrees. I read the description on those teraflex ones and it said " Details
These rear axle spring pads can be us when swapping in a rear axle from another vehicle. They are threaded to use a spring retainer for each spring to keep your spring in place during difficult off road situations. Note: Welding required "
You could always cut the stock spring perches and rotate them a little, but if you go with a taller lift one day you might have to rotate them more to compensate for that.

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Old Jan 20, 2011 | 12:43 PM
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Found this one also w w w.currieenterprises.com/CESTORE/ProductsRE.aspx?id=3126
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Old Jan 20, 2011 | 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by PainKiller
is it a low speed ( 10-35 mph) ? or a higher speed DW ? mine is the low speed dw and it usually happens after the passenger side hits a rough spot or pot hole. I am going with the RC wedge adapters for the rear spring bow and RC lower adj. control arms.
around 42 its starts its shimmy to dw. I have checked everything with no luck
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Old Jan 20, 2011 | 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by interceptor_1972
That's good to hear since I'll be changing my RC 4" to a Teraflex 4" here soon. Wanted to make sure that I didn't lose the lift because of the added weight of the bumper, winch, 35s in the back, etc.


Let me know how this works out, if you don't mind. I think I've come to the conclusion of going with weld-on Teraflex Spring Perch (will need a professional welder to do it *waiting to see if Screamin Lizard will do it *). Here's what I'm thinking of going with:


that woud be good but I wanted to cheap way $30 and no welding option. Probably get it on there once I figure the dw issue
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Old Jan 20, 2011 | 12:56 PM
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interceptor and i were talking and thought that maybe the rear coil springs bowing might have something to do with the DW ( spring loads under incorrect angles ). I re-torqued everything under the front end and inspected it as i went along using plannman's DW check list...and it still does it
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Old Jan 20, 2011 | 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by PainKiller
are those spring perches set at a 10 degree offset angle ? If not then you might still need the wedges unless they weld them on to offset for the spring bow...

...You could always cut the stock spring perches and rotate them a little, but if you go with a taller lift one day you might have to rotate them more to compensate for that.
Yep, these are supposed to basically replace the stock perch. As in, grind off the stock perch, rotate the pinion angle to the desired amount and reposition the coil to where they're at a 90° angle, and weld them on. Yes, it would be a permanent mount, and if you changed lifts down the line, you'd need to redo this again. But, in my case, once I go to the Teraflex 4" kit, I'm staying there - no higher . Going with taller lifts doesn't gain any clearance advantage at the axle anyways, so the only change for down the line would be going to 37s, once I have a solution for the Front axle.

Originally Posted by PainKiller
Found this one also w w w.currieenterprises.com/CESTORE/ProductsRE.aspx?id=3126
Exactly the same concept as the Tera perches, with the exception that the Tera comes as a kit with two, and includes coil spring retainers.

Originally Posted by SilverJK12
around 42 its starts its shimmy to dw. I have checked everything with no luck
Did you have someone get in the Jeep, have the engine OFF, and tried hard to turn the steering wheel from left to right and back? Doing this showed a flexing in my trackbar drop bracket when I used to have one - not much, just about 1/4" flexing, but that was enough to cause the original shimmy I was having (Not DW). You probably have, but just thought I'd restate the obvious

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that woud be good but I wanted to cheap way $30 and no welding option. Probably get it on there once I figure the dw issue
If you do that before I get my perches welded on, let me know how it goes. I'm not opposed to correction wedges, but I'd rather have a more permanent solution.

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interceptor and i were talking and thought that maybe the rear coil springs bowing might have something to do with the DW ( spring loads under incorrect angles ). I re-torqued everything under the front end and inspected it as i went along using plannman's DW check list...and it still does it
Here's a picture of what my rear coils look like. It didn't look this way when I had stock control arms, and there was no contact with the rear trackbar. The Teraflex Rear UCA is set as short as it will go, and the rear of the passenger coil makes contact with the JKS trackbar, enough to loosen up the jam nut .






On to another question Duane. I was under my JK earlier, and noticed something weird. Remember when you said that the stock rear driveshaft has U Joints?? Guess what???

Transfer Case end:


Axle end:


No U-Joints. Just flanges on both ends on a Constant Velocity DS. Wonder if something changed between model years because I could've swore the picture you showed me that had a U-Joint on the transfer case side said it came off of a 2007 JK Unlimited. Notice the pinion angle vs. DS angle on the second image there. I have a feeling that is the cause of my stock DS woes.
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Old Jan 20, 2011 | 01:39 PM
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Yep looked at the Trac and no movement. Well that I cannot tell. I will look again
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Old Jan 20, 2011 | 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by SilverJK12
Yep looked at the Trac and no movement. Well that I cannot tell. I will look again
My movement/flexing was not in the trackbar itself, it was the trackbar drop bracket shifting at the point that it bolts on to the frame. Just to clarify. The torque on the bolt holding the trackbar to the drop bracket and the trackbar to the axle side was spot on. But no matter how much I torqued down the bolts holding the drop bracket to the frame, it'd still shift.
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Old Jan 20, 2011 | 02:44 PM
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All these posts are making me feel good about my plan to keep my suspension stock and go with metal cloak fenders. You can run 37s with no lift. I may not have the most articulation, but doesn't seem it's worth all the potential issues and wear and tear to lift. I can't see myself going bigger than 35's unless I win the lottery or something.
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Old Jan 20, 2011 | 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by snowbilt
All these posts are making me feel good about my plan to keep my suspension stock and go with metal cloak fenders. You can run 37s with no lift. I may not have the most articulation, but doesn't seem it's worth all the potential issues and wear and tear to lift. I can't see myself going bigger than 35's unless I win the lottery or something.
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