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2.5 TF coils and Adj control arms question

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Old Feb 12, 2013 | 08:42 AM
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Originally Posted by 4x4chick
If you are not concern about ground clearance, then do the brackets. But if you want to lift the Jeep for more than just the looks, then do the control arms.
I'm pretty sure you'd get more ground clearance aside from brackets location. Did you consider the possibility that $100 to get geometry in order correct may be a nice alternative to control arms for the time being? Don't assume everyone who uses drop brackets does it for looks.
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Old Feb 12, 2013 | 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by JohnnyQuik
Rear arms are only needed if you require an aftermarket rear driveshaft. At 3" you'll probably want longer front lowers to correct caster to help steering feel and control. Drop brackets are fine if you don't mind giving up some ground clearance.
I am curious. Why do most recommend rear UCAs when using an aftermarket drive shaft, but not so much if retaining the stock drive shaft on 2.5"-3" of lift?
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Old Feb 12, 2013 | 01:11 PM
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may have to put arms and a trackbar on the list, everything seems fine tho after the coil install but prolly wouldnt hurt to change things out.
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Old Feb 12, 2013 | 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Jumpmaster
I am curious. Why do most recommend rear UCAs when using an aftermarket drive shaft, but not so much if retaining the stock drive shaft on 2.5"-3" of lift?
Generally you won't get vibes running the stock at a steep angle. Uppers will prolong its life though..
With a double carden DS uppers are necessary to set pinion and not get vibes.
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Old Feb 12, 2013 | 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by AirJordan613
I'm pretty sure you'd get more ground clearance aside from brackets location. Did you consider the possibility that $100 to get geometry in order correct may be a nice alternative to control arms for the time being? Don't assume everyone who uses drop brackets does it for looks.
Did I say everybody that use bracket are ONLY for looks??? NO!!!! And yes, the brackets is a cheep alternative for control arms, but if you are after ground clearance and use brackets, don't complain if you get hang up the whole time.
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Old Feb 12, 2013 | 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Jumpmaster
I am curious. Why do most recommend rear UCAs when using an aftermarket drive shaft, but not so much if retaining the stock drive shaft on 2.5"-3" of lift?
The stock shaft uses a rzeppa joint that can tolerate a lot of angle without issue. The same angle with an aftermarket shaft that uses double u-joints will vibrate badly. Longer rear uppers rotate the pinion so the angle is within spec. The issue with the stock joints in that the rubber pinion boot will pinch against the joint housing and tear with more than 2 or 3 inches of lift. This will cause the joint to fail.
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Old Feb 12, 2013 | 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by JohnnyQuik
The stock shaft uses a rzeppa joint that can tolerate a lot of angle without issue. The same angle with an aftermarket shaft that uses double u-joints will vibrate badly. Longer rear uppers rotate the pinion so the angle is within spec. The issue with the stock joints in that the rubber pinion boot will pinch against the joint housing and tear with more than 2 or 3 inches of lift. This will cause the joint to fail.
Pretty good explanation; thanks. Just to make sure I am tracking...there is no real benefit getting rear UCAs for the stock rear ds? If that is the case what is the "prefered" double u-joint? Thanks
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Old Feb 12, 2013 | 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted by kjeeper10
Generally you won't get vibes running the stock at a steep angle. Uppers will prolong its life though..
With a double carden DS uppers are necessary to set pinion and not get vibes.
So you can get some pinion adjustment out of the stock ds with adj. Rear uppers?
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Old Feb 12, 2013 | 06:37 PM
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Well... you are raising the pinion up to better align with the DS. So yes it will help.
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Old Feb 12, 2013 | 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted by kjeeper10
Well... you are raising the pinion up to better align with the DS. So yes it will help.
I already had TF front lowers and rear uppers on the wish list so i guess the rears will stay put especially if it will help extend the life of the rear ds. Thanks.
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