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Old Feb 15, 2013 | 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Pluke the 2
as you said man. i've been wheeling smart and not so much hard for 3 years on 37s with 513s, lockers and the only issue ive had was an axle shaft ujoint cap escaped.
Wheeling smart has everything to do with it. And lockers help tremendously despite what people say (I drank the "open dif is less likely to break" koolaid for too long and learned the hard way).

For me, it took one tire spin and then suddenly catching on cemetery (red) at rausch. Very little throttle, just the weight of the jeep combined with the tire catching all at the wrong time.

The reason the 44 is that much stronger is the larger pinion gear, deeper tooth mesh/more tooth contact, and the factory locker or your quality aftermarket lockers are 4 pinion. Open D30 carrier is 2 pinion. Half the strength right there.
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Old Feb 15, 2013 | 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by JKred
Wheeling smart has everything to do with it. And lockers help tremendously despite what people say (I drank the "open dif is less likely to break" koolaid for too long and learned the hard way).

For me, it took one tire spin and then suddenly catching on cemetery (red) at rausch. Very little throttle, just the weight of the jeep combined with the tire catching all at the wrong time.

The reason the 44 is that much stronger is the larger pinion gear, deeper tooth mesh/more tooth contact, and the factory locker or your quality aftermarket lockers are 4 pinion. Open D30 carrier is 2 pinion. Half the strength right there.
I hear ya JKred. If I knew how much hassle the dana30 was going to be from the start I could have used that $ towards a pro rock44 early on... gotta love learning these things as you go. just glad i didnt start with a rubicon!
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Old Feb 15, 2013 | 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by JKred
For me, it took one tire spin and then suddenly catching on cemetery (red) at rausch. Very little throttle, just the weight of the jeep combined with the tire catching all at the wrong time.

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Or.....could it have been a weakening of your axle guts from all that welding you did for the truss?
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Old Feb 15, 2013 | 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by daspes
Define HARD? Hard trails, or "I'm an idiot with the skinny pedal hard"?

My 07' X was locked with 38's on pintler locks, trussed , gusseted, 5.13's and a Ripp SC. after 5 years the only thing that went was the drivers side U-joint. That Jeep did the Rubicon, Moab EJS 3 times, trails all over Oregon, WA state, SoCal, Badlands, Gulches, Rausch URE, and others. My relatively new '12 Sport has been running nearly a year on TWF's, locker, trussed and gusseted. It's handled east coast "HARD" trails with no issues on 3.73's.

Wheel smarter not harder. The only real difference the 44 gets you the larger gear set. Thicker pinion, yes an improvement, but If you don't torque the shit out of the 30 and pick smart lines, it will last on 37's.
Wheeling in general, We just broke a Dana44 axle shaft (37" tires) while we pre-ran KOH in a 2 door.

We see a ton of jeeps go in and out of the shop weekly, montly and yearly. Its not uncommon for a Dana30 or a Dana44 to break with 37's or 35's.
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Old Feb 15, 2013 | 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by chris@offroadevolution
Its not uncommon for a Dana30 or a Dana44 to break with 37's or 35's.
Can you expand more on what you're seeing break? I had a pretty lengthy conversation with a dynatrac discussing the differences between the JK Dana 30 and Dana 44 front internals, as the housing are the same (generally speaking). According to them it is very rare that the Dana 44 ring and pinion fails in a front application using any sized tire. In fact, he could not recall a single instance of ring gear failure in any front Dana 44 application. We all know failure of the Dana 30 ring and pinion is more common.

I consider broken axle shafts and u joints to be part of the game. It can and will happen on just about any axle.
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