I was never told anything when I let them replace my air conditioner compressor in December. I wonder if I am flagged also. Chrysler should have to notify you when this happens. Good luck with this WOL. You have helped me out a lot over the past few years. :synister:
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Originally Posted by j33per
(Post 1723199)
Service managers are probably paid a bonus based on customer reviews and therefore these marks are of concern to them. This is exactly what I meant when I wrote about stepping on someone's toes. How bad does a dealer need to be to get 0. Zero is nothing, nada like total and utter rubbish. I cannot believe that Tuttle Click deserved nada and rating them with a fat zero says possibly more about your state of mind at the time than the dealer's.
Providing that feedback shouldn't be grounds for the dealer in question to RETALIATE by essentially voiding his valid corporate warranty! If they didn't deserve a zero then, they certainly deserve it now. That includes corporate. |
Originally Posted by j33per
(Post 1723199)
Less bashing and more thinking seems like a good idea to me. WOL, I'm not on anyone's side.
Service managers are probably paid a bonus based on customer reviews and therefore these marks are of concern to them. This is exactly what I meant when I wrote about stepping on someone's toes. How bad does a dealer need to be to get 0. Zero is nothing, nada like total and utter rubbish. I cannot believe that Tuttle Click deserved nada and rating them with a fat zero says possibly more about your state of mind at the time than the dealer's. My main point is a very serious one; This thread will almost certainly not go unnoticed by Chrysler. I could imagine that Chrysler reads this forum and that they may formulate the view that warranty repairs on modified vehicles are no longer permitted. Period. That way, there is no grey area. All warranty claims are simply dismissed. Now, that would really screw this community. Not many people have this kind of platform to operate from to address an issue and I suggest you use that privilege carefully for the good of yourself and the community. |
My first few posts on the forum were basically trying to find help with and express frustration at the issues I've been having with my JK since shortly after I drove it off the lot. I too love Jeep. My current JK is my 4th Jeep (85 XJ, 89 XJ, 02 WJ and now 09 JK) and I'm a third generation Jeep owner. I love what my Jeeps allow me to do and where they allow me to go. We go backcountry and camp almost every weekend where few other vehicles would be able to take us.
And yet, with all of this, my latest Jeep (and especially the frustrations I've experienced) has pushed me further away from the Jeep brand I identify with. The dealer I purchased mine from is the largest in Utah and yet they've provided me with an almost endless stream headaches. I too tried to get some form of respite from Chrysler and found none. Thank you Eddie for your efforts, not just with this case, but what you do for all of us on this forum. :beer::beer: |
Originally Posted by jgkjeep
(Post 1723272)
No they aren't. When I bought my JK they tried to sell me one like that and the salesman said it would fall under the factory warranty.
Originally Posted by EarlyJk
(Post 1723276)
Or because a dealership put on the lift kit themselves would they honor the warranty? Which I heard they do, which would open them up for a lawsuit I would believe.
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Originally Posted by jgkjeep
(Post 1723272)
No they aren't. When I bought my JK they tried to sell me one like that and the salesman said it would fall under the factory warranty.
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My rant...............
In this day and time a dealership should be bending over backwards to please its loyal fan base, and a Jeep fan base is about as loyal as you can get. I cannot believe the irresponsible child-like manner in which they black balled WOL. To me, nothing is as American as owning a Jeep, I've driven some form of Jeep for the last 20 years. I've suffered through the sub-par engines the rotting floorboards, tubs etc. and have never complained because HEY, Its a Jeep Thing! Jeep was NEVER considered by any stretch of the imagination as a reliable well built vehicle but we all soldiered on and built it up to the stature it has become.....by adding the aftermarket parts we have taken this niche vehicle to the next level. There are NO 2 aftermarket Jeeps alike and that breeds "WANT" from a public that sees what they can actually do to a stock vehicle. If anything WE market Jeep more than any Chrysler marketing campaign ever could. There are more aftermarket parts made for Jeeps then for all other vehicles' combined and they have been making them for longer (which we could easily infer that they are made to a higher quality and have been tested to perform above and beyond what stock parts could ever do). As a community that love our Jeeps WE have to stick together...I don't know WOL from a hole in the wall but I've read your complete post and I feel your pain.
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sticky note this one
Bump. all should read and all should e mail jeep
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Bad news. Sorry to hear you've had so much trouble. Obviously we all know that what they're doing is against the law. Unfortunately, one has to really put in a lot of effort to overcome something like this. If they were denying an expensive repair and lawyer would be justified but at this point you're in limbo because nothing is pending. Contacting SEMA or the BBB might be a good route to take for now.
I'm not surprised by everything that you've encountered. We had a 1997 Dodge Grand Caravan that we bought new. Had brake problems from the very beginning. The dealers were useless. They only made it worse (one even installed brake lines to the wrong ports which made the ABS engage and not release until the vehicle was stopped). Chrysler did nothing to help. After a while I went after them under the lemon law. A Chrysler rep called to essentially try and buy me off (they offered some sort of extended warranty if I remember correctly). At this point the brakes were still not working right and I refused anything short of a buyback. The rep laughed at me and told me there was no way that would happen. To make a long story short, the arbitrator sent an independent inspector to examine the vehicle. He found the brakes to be defective and Chrysler was ordered to take the van back. Since the brake problem cropped up early we got almost all our money back (after having owned the van for more than two years). Chrysler and the dealers blew every chance to remedy the problem and paid for it in the end. I'm still shocked that I went ahead and bought another Chrysler vehicle. I guess I'm not so worried this time because I bought it used and it's almost out of warranty. Don't hesitate to go nuclear if you have an expensive repair that is denied. The burden of proof is on Chrysler when denying warranty coverage, not the vehicle owner. |
Originally Posted by j33per
(Post 1723199)
Less bashing and more thinking seems like a good idea to me. WOL, I'm not on anyone's side.
Service managers are probably paid a bonus based on customer reviews and therefore these marks are of concern to them. This is exactly what I meant when I wrote about stepping on someone's toes. How bad does a dealer need to be to get 0. Zero is nothing, nada like total and utter rubbish. I cannot believe that Tuttle Click deserved nada and rating them with a fat zero says possibly more about your state of mind at the time than the dealer's. My main point is a very serious one; This thread will almost certainly not go unnoticed by Chrysler. I could imagine that Chrysler reads this forum and that they may formulate the view that warranty repairs on modified vehicles are no longer permitted. Period. That way, there is no grey area. All warranty claims are simply dismissed. Now, that would really screw this community. Not many people have this kind of platform to operate from to address an issue and I suggest you use that privilege carefully for the good of yourself and the community. Thanks for reading and have a great day! |
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