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KG6SLC 10-09-2017 03:03 PM

Backspacing conflict for 37" tires with Metal Cloak 3.5" Game Changer Rocksport
 
I am anxiously awaiting the arrival of my 3.5” MetalCloak Game Changer Rocksport. Last Saturday I also purchased 37/12.5R17 KM2 tires with the intent of mounting them on Method NV machined wheels 17”x8.5” 5x5.0 bolt pattern with 4.75” backspacing.

This setup is for my 2013 Rubicon JKU 10a. I am also changing out my front Drive Shaft & adding exhaust spacer.

Checking with Metal Cloak on this configuration, they stated that it would be OK on the street but offroad my tires would rub when turning. They are recommending backspacing of 3.5” to 4.0”. (????)

What backspacing and wheels are you running with your Game Changer 3.5” lift?

KG6SLC aka Eugene

nthinuf 10-09-2017 03:26 PM

I'm running 4.5" BS rims + 1.5" spacers - giving a 3" backspace.

Some guidelines are posted in the Thoughts on Lifts thread, stuck right to the top of this Modified area:

Net max back spacing:
5.5” for a 33x12.5
4.5” for 35x12.5
3.5” for 37x12.5
1.75” for a 40x13.5

4x4chick 10-09-2017 03:54 PM

37x12,5R17 tires on ATX Slabs with 3,5" backspacing in the Game changer lift and no problems. 2" bump stop in the front and only 1" in the back.

jtphoto JK 10-09-2017 05:57 PM

4.75 BS + 1.5" spacers for 37x12.50x17 Pitbulls

resharp001 10-10-2017 05:21 AM

Your question is more about the tires than the lift. with a 37x12.5, 4.75" BS is too much. You can get by with 4.5" BS and a few washers in the steering stops, but you'll still have a tiny bit of rubbing under full articulation. You really do want 3.5 -4" BS for a 37. Outside of different wheels, you're looking at spacers.....unless you just don't care about the rubbing and loss of steering range.

TheDirtman 10-10-2017 06:25 AM

lifts really have nothing to do with needed back spacing like resharp said Tire size and amount of suspension travel will dictate that. Cancel your wheel order and find ones that have a 3.5" BS or have method build your wheels to your specs.

japatton@icloud.com 10-10-2017 05:03 PM

So, I currently have 17ā€ Fuel Anza wheels with 3.5ā€ backspacing. Iā€™m looking at either the 37x12.50 Nitto Ridge Grappler or the 37x13.50 Cooper STT Pro. I have Rock Krawler arms. What do you guys recommend for the Coopers? A few washers on the steering stop and stick with my current wheels as well? Add spacers? Change wheels?

TheDirtman 10-10-2017 05:31 PM

You should be fine at 3.5" back spacing.

KG6SLC 10-10-2017 09:30 PM

Thanks all
 
Thanks to everyone that chimed in.

In actuality I was only planning on getting 35" tires with the Method NV wheels I mentioned in my first post. However, while making the deal with the salesman, he stated that with that lift I could easily go to 37" tires with no problem. Multiple people in the store at the time agreed. At the time I recalled that everyone on the forums had stated that they wished they would have just gone with 37's. Since both the 35" and 37" tires both were the same width, I decided at the counter to go with 37" not realizing that the 4.75" backspacing would not be OK with the 37" tires. As a precaution I subsequently called Metal Cloak to get their input...hence, this thread.

I know of someone that is running the same 37" tires with 4.5" backspaced wheels and has been for some time now. He states that he only rubs slightly when at full lock and with the wheeling that he does he is OK with that so 4.5" seems to be at the bottom of acceptability with lower backspacing preferred.

Some people I have talked to state that spacers are an option but to be on the safe side, I am changing my wheel choice.

Thanks again,

KG6SLC aka Eugene

resharp001 10-11-2017 05:05 AM


Originally Posted by KG6SLC (Post 4305769)
Some people I have talked to state that spacers are an option but to be on the safe side, I am changing my wheel choice.

This is really the best thing. Do it right to begin with and not have to worry about it again. Also, with less backspacing you'll have the option to run either a 13.5" or 12.5" 37.

I'm sure you've read through a lot of threads on such topics, but expect a 3.5" lift with 37s to cost a bit more than what you think your upfront cost is going to be. I don't see any upgraded steering in your profile build. Expect to replace TR, DL, BJ's, front drive shaft if you haven't already done so. Surely you're planning a regear too.


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