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Old Feb 21, 2008 | 03:37 PM
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Question Body Lift question...

Some day, in the pretty distant future, I will likely add a 1" body lift when I am ready to go to 35s. (If I strike it rich, I'll go with a LA kit - ). Anywho, I've seen some 1" BL kits going for upwards of $300 and others as low as $100.

For 1" poly spacers, what could possibly be the difference to justify that kind of price range???

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Old Feb 21, 2008 | 04:42 PM
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I have the 1" MORE kit and really liked the quality. I did paint the pucks to flat black.
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Old Feb 21, 2008 | 08:05 PM
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There are a million threads on this ( actually about 100,000 threads but who's counting ). Problem is NONE of them really address differences or tell which is really better.

I can't say which is better but I bought the Daystar ( if it cost more it must be better ). The JK body mounts are bolted into the frame and then the body sits on top of the mount. Most body lifts insert a spacer between the mount that is bolted to the frame and the body is placed on top of that. The Daystar actually sits between the frame and the mount. The mount is unbolted from the frame, a "puck" shaped exactly like the mount is placed on the bottom of the mount and the mount is bolted back to the frame sitting an inch higher. The body is placed back down on top of the mount and rebolted to the mount. Is it better? I don't know. I think it looks better. All said and done they all lift the body 1" off the frame.


"puck" on top of mount ( like M.O.R.E. )



Spacer between frame and mount ( like Daystar )





There is definately more surface area on the spacer under the mount, it is bolted to the frame with 2 bolts. The spacer that goes above the mount has less surface area and has 1 bolt through it. I guess the larger spacer with more surface area and 2 bolts holding it to the frame would be stronger but is that extra strength necessary?

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Old Feb 22, 2008 | 06:42 AM
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If I had to say which is "better"...I'd say the Daystar, as its got a wide base that has a long oval shape, with both ends screwed into the frame, PLUS the central bolt that all of the body mounts use.

That way, the original body mount is attached to the body in the same way it always was, and the wider base where the frame part of the mount was is raised as a more stable platform.

That said....I don't know of any one who had a failure of the conventional poly or aluminum "pucks" at 1 - 1.25"....On some old jeeps, with questionable remaining metallurgy, etc...in an accident, the body could slide relative to the frame due to the shear force exerted on the taller puck towers, etc....and the weakened/rusted body and or frame mounting points themselves.

Generally, the pucks themselves don't fail...its what they're attached to...and, assuming the JK will one day be old and decrpit, etc....the Daystar option is more likely to retain additional strength.

I also like that the black daystar spacer looks more like part of an OEM mount, and less like an aftermarket puck tower...and doesn't LOOK like a BL "Puck".



Is it worth almost twice as much?

I don't know...for some, it will be. I'll probably go that route myself when ready to upgrade the tires.

I do know it takes longer to install, as its three attachements rather than one like the others...so, if pressed for time for the install...the Daystar will be more time consuming....2 screws and a bolt per mount, vs 1 bolt per mount.

If the extra security and visual appearance, etc, works for you, maybe its worth the difference....otherwise, the regular pucks seem to work just fine.



Hope that helps.

(Dave - great pics!)

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Old Feb 22, 2008 | 07:50 AM
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Thanks for the replies and the education. Still kinda hopin' to hit the lottery, but in case I don't, I have a better feel for which way I'm gonna go.

Thanks!
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Old Feb 22, 2008 | 09:23 AM
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I was thinking of doing the BL myself. How do you lift the body up to get the BL in? What tools will I need?
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Old Feb 22, 2008 | 10:13 AM
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A good highlift floor jack, several 2' pieces of 4x4 or 2x4's, small sledge hammer, and a good set of metric and standard sockets and end wrenches, small vise is not absolutely necessary but makes things easier. The bolts that come out are 18mm head, make sure you have that one to get the metric bolts out, oh and a long screw driver to pry down on the bolts to get them off the keeper washer thats between the OE mount and body. That's info for the MORE BL anyway. Takes about an hour to an hour and a half, Have fun!
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Old Feb 22, 2008 | 10:19 AM
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Loosen all body bolts, take out driver side bolts, jack up body between the mounts , install pucks and bolts, take other side out ,repeat, tighten all bolts, you will have to take your grill off first though to get to the front mounts. follow the instructions and you'll do fine.
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Old Feb 22, 2008 | 04:34 PM
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It took me 2 hours to do the Daystar and install a magnaflow muffler, relocated under the driver's seat, oh...and put lights into my aftermarket bumper. There were 2 of us working on it and we used a lift, makes it easier than climbing around on the floor under the Jeep ( especially with a bad back ). I think it's an 18mm for the center bolt, and a 16mm for the 2 mount bolts. You will need a ratchet, extention, and the sockets. When I took out the center bolts I grabbed the washer and pulled downward while unscrewing the bolt, if you don't it just keeps spinning forever attached to the washer that was mentioned in previous posts. You'll also need a couple pieces of wood (4x4 and 2x4 each about a foot long or so ). I didn't use the wood because I used the lift to gently lift the body off the frame and it locks itself in place.


TEEJ... Thanks...the Daystar pics would have been better but it was about 1am last night, in the dark, in the snow...but they're good enough to see what I was talking about.
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Old Feb 22, 2008 | 05:22 PM
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How does Performance Assy go in?
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