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Old Aug 26, 2008 | 03:01 PM
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While I am extremely skeptical, I welcome any Jeeper trying to find a way to increase mileage.

I also do not buy the idea that if it worked the auto companies would jump on it. The auto companies are riding the coat tails of the oil companies and buck CAFE as much as they can get away with.

If this is not true then someone tell me why back in the late 70s there were a few gas powered cars getting mid 40mpg and one getting 52mpg, and now the best any gas car gets is 34mpg.. Also tell my why up until just a couple years ago Honda sold a hybrid that got 60mpg in the US, but now the best hybrid they sell here gets 42mpg, yet they still sell that 60mpg car in other countries.
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Old Aug 26, 2008 | 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by hig4s
While I am extremely skeptical, I welcome any Jeeper trying to find a way to increase mileage.

I also do not buy the idea that if it worked the auto companies would jump on it. The auto companies are riding the coat tails of the oil companies and buck CAFE as much as they can get away with.

If this is not true then someone tell me why back in the late 70s there were a few gas powered cars getting mid 40mpg and one getting 52mpg, and now the best any gas car gets is 34mpg.. Also tell my why up until just a couple years ago Honda sold a hybrid that got 60mpg in the US, but now the best hybrid they sell here gets 42mpg, yet they still sell that 60mpg car in other countries.
I had an '85 Renault Encore that got 45 mpg, repeatable every on-highway tank of gas. Mid 30's around town. The engine was solid, but the front suspension fell apart in less than 2 years.
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Old Aug 26, 2008 | 05:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Propilot512
Well as a follow up, I wanted it to be know that I am not promoting, or even recommending anything, I just was trying to find a way to save gas, and my jk. I drive 100 miles a day. You can take my post anyway you like, and I don't care what you take from this. I thought this site was used to pass information not get your fucking head taken off when someone trying something new and pass on information. I guess if I was writing about bumpers or wheels it would be better suited for this forum.
i was woundering how many miles u got to ur tank u finnished testing with
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Old Aug 26, 2008 | 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted by ronjenx
I had an '85 Renault Encore that got 45 mpg, repeatable every on-highway tank of gas. Mid 30's around town. The engine was solid, but the front suspension fell apart in less than 2 years.
I was thinking along those same lines, that the auto manufacturers are in the oil company's back pocket, or vice versa.

Back in the early 80's I worked for a company that had a fleet of Toyotas that got 43 to 45 mpg. Sounds like a conspiracy!
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Old Aug 26, 2008 | 07:52 PM
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Originally Posted by dsword
I was thinking along those same lines, that the auto manufacturers are in the oil company's back pocket, or vice versa.

Back in the early 80's I worked for a company that had a fleet of Toyotas that got 43 to 45 mpg. Sounds like a conspiracy!

ohhhhhh it is to *some* degree I think....but then again a vicious cycle. Those alive through the 70's gotta remember the prices of gas then and how america screamed for cheaper imports that got better milage & everyone adapated *for a while* and then the scream came for bigger/faster cars & trucks & jeeps again: and so they too were built and forstalled really any BIG BIG improvements. Soooooooo, now once again 30 years later every'body screamin' for better fuel economy............. let me be the first to say we'll next have a bloody fleet of crapsters on the marget that will make a Geo and a KIA looks like *serious engineering* and that will be follwed by a wave of better crapsters that are soooooooper sluggish. Strange, stooopid cycle we're on.
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Old Aug 27, 2008 | 04:18 AM
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Originally Posted by uup4it
... If you don't agree with this mod, just CLICK ON!

P.S. It is you
I don't agree with scamming the members of this forum which is why I won't just move along. If those folks who are "promoting" this device aren't shills for the company, I apologize. But, a bunch of new folks jumping on this forum and generating excitement over a product that's been proven to not work sure do sound like shills.

ARE YOU THINKING ABOUT BUYING THE FITCH DEVICE TO CHECK IT OUT? BEFORE WASTING YOUR MONEY, READ THIS:

Fuel Saving Gadgets -- A Professional Engineer's View

IF YOU STILL THINK IT WILL WORK, THEN SPEND THE MONEY THE TOOTH FAIRY GIVES YOUR FOR IT.

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Old Aug 27, 2008 | 04:24 AM
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Originally Posted by hig4s
... someone tell me why back in the late 70s there were a few gas powered cars getting mid 40mpg and one getting 52mpg, and now the best any gas car gets is 34mpg..
Sure, that's easy. The way the MPG was figured has been changed several times. Each time the resulting readings were lower, but more real-world. Add in that when gas got cheaper again Americans forgot what they'd gone through and went back to larger vehicles with more gas guzzler motors, and you've just created the situation we're in.

Also, the premise that the car companies want higher price oil because they're benefiting is ludicrous. If they were benefiting, the markets wouldn't be selling the stocks off at bargain basement prices. Heck, there's been bankruptcy talk about all three companies off and on--hardly sounds like they're benefiting to me.

As for the car companies bucking CAFE: Yes, they resist every attempt to make the CAFE rules tighter. That's a lot different than saying they won't implement new technologies that would make it easier for them to comply with CAFE because they don't like CAFE. That's just plain wrong-headed logic.

ARE YOU THINKING ABOUT BUYING THE FITCH DEVICE TO CHECK IT OUT? BEFORE WASTING YOUR MONEY, READ THIS:

Fuel Saving Gadgets -- A Professional Engineer's View

IF YOU STILL THINK IT WILL WORK, THEN SPEND THE MONEY THE TOOTH FAIRY GIVES YOUR FOR IT.

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Old Aug 27, 2008 | 04:44 AM
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I love this thread, my sides hurt.
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Old Aug 27, 2008 | 05:26 AM
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Originally Posted by HappyCurmudgeon
I love this thread, my sides hurt.
Ya' need side-curtain air bags! LOL!
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Old Aug 27, 2008 | 05:28 AM
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Originally Posted by deconstructionist
Ya' need side-curtain air bags! LOL!

I have them, except i prefer to call them "Love Handles"
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