OK
So its a waste for me to spend the money for a winch.
I really have never needed one in my life (previous Jeep and truck owner)
so as cool as I think it would be I know it would just sit there.

Anyway

I still want to change out the Bumper.
What do you guys like and thinks looks good
without a winch???

I was looking at the AEV with the Warn Winch
and the Shrockworks Mid Length with the Warn Powerplant.
I even put some thought into the Fab Fours or Warn Bumpers.

I want built in fogs and also want to be able to add a pair on the
bumper

I think the FabFours could look good with some lights right in the middle
I dont know...
Seems all the bumper pics have winches so its hard to imagine it.

 

So no winch and built in fogs. I am thinking either the PureJeep bumper or the Rugged Ridge bumper. Both bumpers can use to the stock fog lights. Someone else can link PJ bumper but here is Rugged Ridges stuby bumper. You can add end caps, brush guards, winch guards or stinger on it

http://www.4wd.com/productdetails.aspx?partID=15926

sorry mods if they are not a sponsor!

 

The PJ is ok, it just does not do it for me.

I do not lke the Rugged Ridge at all... I do not trust modular
items like that.

How stupid would it look having the AEV, Shockworks or Fab Fours without the
winch in it? Who knows, someday I may change my mind and want a winch BUT I dont want it to look stupid till then...,

 

You could fab up a cover (Shrockworks is supposedly working on one) like this:



I am taking my time looking at a possible winch, but in the meantime, it doesn't bother me all that much not to have one with this cover plate on...I know this pic doesn't account for the factory fogs, but their midwidth does...