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Dzldust 03-13-2018 08:25 AM

clearancing frame for UD60 steering
 
Getting ready to do some frame clearancing

BoraBora 03-13-2018 08:50 AM

Are you talking about turning? As in you can't turn to full lock without your tires rubbing the frame? Or is your drag link flipped/contacting the frame with up travel?

What really strikes me as "woah why?" is the 4.5" of backspacing on your beadlocks. 3.5 or 3.75" of backspacing and you wouldn't have issues with rubbing the frame. 1" wheel spacers would work if this is your issue. Are those Coopers 12.5 or 13.5" wide? What made you go with 4.5" of backspacing? That's what most people on 35x12.5 tires run...and even then I've heard of rubbing issues in some cases.

If the draglink is hitting the frame at full stuff/bump, then you'll need to pull your cutting wheel and welder out. Essentially notch the frame and weld in new plate. Or more bumpstop (nahh, lame).

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Dzldust 03-13-2018 09:27 AM

MrDirt man is alright by me ,sorry bud

Dzldust 03-13-2018 09:28 AM

Updates soon

Dzldust 03-13-2018 09:31 AM

Kinda like this ,been searching on info before I start cutting but need full turning radius measurements https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.jk-...4aa0840bc.jpeg
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for Hydro assist build

TheDirtman 03-13-2018 11:18 AM

Just throw some wheel adapters on and be done. Those axles and that backspacing are not good for 40" tires but would be the sweet spot for 37's A 72" wms axle would have been the proper fit for a 4.5" bs wheel.

Dzldust 03-13-2018 09:20 PM

fresh start

BoraBora 03-14-2018 08:33 AM


Originally Posted by Dzldust (Post 4316715)
Your help is not wanted Dirtman,thanks to those that offered assistance in clearancing frame,I knew what to do ,just figured I’d start a friendly thread and see what others have done and give people a resource when they have the same issue but since you have all the answers I’ll leave it with you ,,Dirtman,you have issues ,man.Take your meds .....

Woah...what's your deal man? You have 9 posts yet you're talking like you and Dirtman have history. Have you seen his JKFreaks build? He went balls deep into his JK/buggy build...I think he has a pretty good idea of what he's talking about. Not counting his rig, he's helped multiple people going the 'tons and 40's' route. Shutting him down like he has no idea what he's talking about is completely unwarranted.

You're running 4.5" of backspacing with 69" wide 60's...that was your mistake. You're more willing to cut and modify your frame rather than use 1" wheel spacers. Seems like you already made up your mind, but you're seeking validation for your senseless plan.

Good luck.

TheDirtman 03-14-2018 08:38 AM

I called bs on another thread he had and he threw a fit and deleted everything. After 2 post called me troll that needed to get back on his meds. These guys come and go when they don't get the praise they seek.

BoraBora 03-14-2018 08:43 AM

edit: was too quick to judge.

Dzldust 03-14-2018 11:01 AM

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Not exactly snowflake but I know how forums go ,the guy with the high post count gets to be the bully,I’ve builty,dude jumped my butt in a build threadi posted just to join up and be apart of the group,I’ve been around longer than either of you ,have so many builds under my belt it’s not even funny .I just wanted to contribute to the group with a question that hasn’t been covered much.I chose the backspacing for a reason and I didn’t ask about spacers,I asked about clearancing .I honestly don’t usually even ask questions because I actually have experience building but figured I’d get involved,big mistake.Dirtman I’m sure your full of knowledge but I asked about clearancing a frame,not wheel spacers as an option,didn’t mean to ruffle features but mine got ruffled first so I of course react

Originally Posted by BoraBora (Post 4316737)
Classic snowflake behavior. Looks like he deleted 2 of his comments on this thread already.


Dzldust 03-14-2018 11:01 AM

I’ve got more than just one jeep build under my belt,been going at it since 1989 boys .

Dzldust 03-14-2018 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by TheDirtman (Post 4316736)
I called bs on another thread he had and he threw a fit and deleted everything. After 2 post called me troll that needed to get back on his meds. These guys come and go when they don't get the praise they seek.

not exactly,why even jump
on a guy for posting a build? You know you came across wrong,I’m sure you are a good guy but we got off on the wrong foot .We are both about the same age Tom and I have been going at this along time,I didn’t need the advice but figured I’d be apart of the group and try.If we were on the trail I’m sure it would be a different story.I spend a lot of time under everybody else’s rig and being helpful as you seem to do on here .Y’all stay safe out there and I’m just going to go my way and get back to working on my Jeep.Ill prob post results in case anyone wants to do what I’m doing.i want my rig narrow and low as possible so “I chose “ the wheel combo I have for a reason, of out of ignorance or being a newbie ,which I’m not.Lets start this whole thing over and learn from Each other .ok?

TheDirtman 03-14-2018 11:15 AM

Cool, you threw the fit when I called you on a bullshit statement. With your build knowledge I am surprised you picked the components you did. There are a couple of threads on clearancing the frame but most will use adapters to fix the problem instead of modifying the frame. Simply mark the area of rub and cut it out. There. Sorry I did not give you what you wanted I just gave you a different easier route to go that would not hurt the value of the jeep. Many people would not consider buying a vehicle that had frame modifications. Wheel adapters would do the same thing and would help protect the lock out hubs from rock damage. You came on here with a simple build that was a bolt on deal, just assumed you would rather bolt on then fab, my mistake but I can only gain info from your limited posts. I typically will look thru builds and post of new members before answering questions they have to get a feel for their experience. Too bad you didn't include some of your prior builds in your intro. Lots of the "JK crowd" that just buys stuff to bolt on for the cool factor and get pissed off when people don't tell then how cool they are. If you wish I will stay out of your threads, its nothing to me how you want to be.

Dzldust 03-14-2018 11:29 AM

It’s all good ,I didn’t claim anything earlier ,just stated what I wNted to do not use spacers.This is my only 6th rig on tons but each was different so I’m just doing what I wanted to do in the first place ,staying narrow,keeping tires in the wheel well at tuck and got my full steering potential .https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.jk-...f3beb32fe.jpegeasiest fix isn’t always the best.I am not one for selling or worrying about resale value,I never put a rig back to stock anyway ,thanks man .Im ok if you are,can we get back o business now that the bulls have bumped chests ?!? Ha ha really I’m glad we got this out and over with

BoraBora 03-14-2018 12:29 PM

Fair enough, I also mistook you for a bolt-on queen in your first post due to the vague info. I personally see more benefits with going wider, but to each their own.

Post pics when you're done, I'm interested.

Dzldust 03-14-2018 05:19 PM

It’s all good fellas,I was on the tail end of a 48 hour shift so I just was trying to find some peace by posting the build,didn’t mean for it to go sideways.Im pretty much a face to face guy and not a forum guy or at least I haven’t been for a while,between my shifts I’m usually working( volunteering so I can work on my own stuff) at a local shop so I spend a lot of time working on other people’s jeeps and what not. Not a know it all but compared to most I can hold my own with a wrench and a welder if you know what I mean.This is one of my first bolt on rigs so it’s hard for me not to go to cutting and modding stuff myself .Im gett8ngbtird so I’ll be taking easier routes eventually.Glad to be a part of the group and hope to be an asset like you fellas.

Dzldust 03-14-2018 05:22 PM


Dzldust 03-14-2018 05:28 PM

Well mission accomplished,was able to turn steering stops all the way in,now I can get some measurements and get this hydro assist installed https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.jk-...96c6b5f9a.jpeghttps://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.jk-...5f758b87a.jpeg
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BoraBora 03-15-2018 05:08 PM

Looks good, thanks for sharing :beer:

Monte417 03-16-2018 06:48 AM

Nice job! Keep the updates coming

Dzldust 03-16-2018 07:15 AM

Had to clean up a corner at full stuff and lock but she has full lock to lock steering and tires tuck in nice ,going long arm next day or so ,should work nice for these narrow trails we run https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.jk-...ff5b5f2f7.jpeg
Drivers side
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Passenger side
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