I'm sorry but I can't just keep seeing this point made and not dispute it. It's simply not true at all unless the only point your making is that both will be damaged. The extent of the damage will be unarguably different between a proper powdercoat and a proper paint job.

Saying anything otherwise is just not true. Paint is not as strong as powdercoat. It's not an opinion it doesn't vary across brands or companies etc. it's scientific fact. I really cannot understand the reason anybody is attempting to make the case that they suffer equal damage under the same circumstances because they just do not. Assuming that the same exact parts are on the same exact jeep that were both prepped correctly and all laser scale removed, one paint one powdercoat, and they both do the same damaging obstacle in the same exact way, there is no question that the powdercoated part will suffer less damage. It is simply fact. And after that damage is done, rust will not spread under a powdercoat almost ever. Doesn't matter what environment it's in. For rust to spread under a powdercoat, it will take 100x the amount of time it takes for regular paint.

It's like people don't want to admit that their rattle can method is inferior in any way. It's ridiculous. Just accept it and let's move on. I wouldn't be replying even if there wasn't incorrect information being spread.

Yes it does in fact make a very noticeable difference, even when sliding your 4000-5000-6000lb jeep across ledges and what not. A powdercoat won't be as damaged. Period. It's really just crazy to me that people are even debating this. I guess some people just want to be right or have the last word or something else idk. But I'm done with this thread. Not going to try and argue with anyone. Anybody who reads the whole post will come to the correct conclusion especially if they do any research at all. Fact is fact. Sorry

 

I'd recommend using a Sharpie over anything. Those markers are tough and touchup in damaged areas is easy. They also come in an amazing variety of colors to suit every preference. Tip selection is key and offers you the ability to add cool designs as well.


(We'll see who misses the humor in this one)

 

Hey now! I know folks that actually used black sharpies on their hard tops.

 

True. The extent of the damage may be different, however there's a point where it won't matter either way and the impact is going to completely remove either product. Hopefully that's an extremely rare case. And in most cases you're correct, the extra cost of the powdercoat will make it less likely that you're Jeep is damaged in a way that requires you to do any kind of repairs.

Again, in most cases this is probably true. But powdercoat isn't some magical indestructible coating. We agree that it CAN be damaged, right? So if the damage is severe enough to completely chip off the powercoat down to the bare metal, then it doesn't really matter what product you used.

I don't see what incorrect information is being spread? Seems like most people have admitted (and I include myself in this) that the rattle can bed liner isn't as strong as powdercoat. No one is arguing that. It's inferior in that it's more easily damaged. It's superior in that it's less expensive and can be easily fixed. And if you apply it correctly it provides a consistent look, color, and texture. I've seen both done well and I, like many others on here, don't think the extra cost of powercoating to be worth it. You do. That's fine.

Again, "as damaged", but the rattle can is easily fixed. That's why both are completely valid options.

I agree. The pros and cons of each have been established.

It does seem that way, doesn't it?

Correct. And the facts are:
- Powercoat is stronger, can be done in almost any color, is less likely to be damaged, but has a much higher cost and can't be repaired at home.
- Rattle can bedliner is cheaper, simple to fix, and comes in any color you like as long as it's black.
- Either can be made to look good and will protect against rust if done correctly and promptly repaired if/when it gets scratched. Powercoat will definitely protect against rust just by the nature of how it's applied. Rattle can will as long as it's applied correctly with a good self etching primer first.
- The powdercoat will be a smooth coating, the bedliner will be textured. The look you're going for will determine which you prefer.

 

yeah, well, when the powder coat scrapes off, as I have had done many times, it scrapes off. It doesn't matter what the material is, if it still scrapes off. I've had many skids powder coated that were needing touch up after a solid session of rock crawling. Dragging through mud or soft soil? Different story. Granite in Colorado? You can have the best PC job ever and you will be losing that coating real quick.

 

Well guys, as the OP, I can tell you a debate about whether to go paint or power-coat is moot here. This is not ever what making this thread was about.

That question was never in question. It was powder-coat all the way from the jump. Paint is good, and yes gets damaged.
Powder coat also gets damaged, but NOT in the same way paint does.

Powder coat does NOT "scrape off" in the same manor as paint does, and you dont "loose" the powder coat finish except exactly where the contact is, unlike paint that starts an area for rust and further damage to happen;

This does NOT happen with a professionally prepped and applied powder coat. Period. If a powder coat application on your vehicle has ever started to peel off, or gotten damaged on a point OTHER than an impact point, you did NOT have it prepped and/or applied correctly. Period.


Its simple; Just look at the previous damage pics Mike posted - the damage each material gets is exactly the same experience I have had with powder coat, and that is that when powder coat DOES take hits from rocks, that is it, the damage is limited to the impact point, UNLIKE paint, where you take damage to that impact point, and then the real damage starts, as air and moisture get under the paint UNLIKE powder coat.

There is no comparison for me. This is real simple for me guys:

- If you have the money to powder coat; DO IT. Its WAY, WAY superior to any paint; even professionally applied paint.
- If you DONT have the money for powder coat, paint it.


Its no more complex or simple than that for me. The only question I had was already answered, and that is that powder coat for what I want is still the way to go, with the looks of paint, without the rough texture, or the HUGE expense of Line-X.

 

Oh bs. Re-read your initial post. You weren't convinced of powder coating. Heck, you were even looking for something like line-x. You also complained about price. geesh.

 

BOOM! mic drop🖐🏼🎤

😁

 

For sure. Price was one of the main things.

As I said, this thread was never about whether or not to go with powder coat or paint.

As the OP, yes....................i have read my own post. Im aware of exactly what I asked.

I started this thread to see if there was anything I could do OTHER than Line-X or powder coating; paint was NEVER in the equation, and my question was answered, there is no way to have PSC put their SpiderShell coating on any of their raw metal parts.

The only options have ALWAYS been powder-coat, Line-X or SpiderShell. Nothing else. As I stated, PAINT WAS NEVER AN OPTION. So..............what I stated was and is true; This thread was never about whether or not to go with paint VS powder coat. Powder coat was ALWAYS the only viable option as long as I could find someone to do it with a reasonable price.


What I meant was powder coat was ALWAYS the option. Line-X although tough was and is WAY out of my price range, and as soon as I got confirmation that Spidershell was out, Powder coating was, is and has been the only other option. Paint was never in the equation, as I said.


Oh and BTW, thanks so much to you last couple guys for adding such wonderfully pertinent posts to this thread. GEESH lol - really makes a guy feel welcome!

FFS, I have only been on this forum just short while and have found some very useful info by some very nice people, and some complete jack-asses.

lol! Internet forums are a funny thing. I think it happens more so with forums like this involving vehicles that have a massive population. I guess I really dont know what I was expecting when joining this forum TBH, but have not really gotten what I expected.
Some of the shit that gets said is nothing like what those same people would say to ANYONE in a face to face conversion with someone they dont know............
rofl, probably because most of those guys, depending on who you're saying it to, would anticipate getting punched in the face saying that same thing face to face.

 

Wow, is this how ALL threads end up on this forum? With people calling each other names and saying their shit is junk?
Ive seen pretty much every/most all threads Ive read in some way or anther deteriorates to this.

HFS, how do you guys keep new members around?


I guess it IS the dumbest thread ever. lol - My bad - Got a fix for that.