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Control Arm Drop Brackets? Yes / No?

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Old May 15, 2014 | 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by LockEmUp-47
Definitely look into the AEV Geometry Correction Front Control Arm Drop Brackets & the AEV High Steer Kit. After my 3.5" lift was installed on my daily driver, I got both of these kits installed and on-road driving & steering was greatly improved, removing the sloppiness & flightiness.
Cool, will do! Is this something I can do myself in the driveway or would I have to have a shop install these?

BTW, Thanks everyone for you input, really appreciate it!
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Old May 15, 2014 | 03:58 PM
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Should be able to install them with simple shop tools. I would look up the instructions online just to make sure you have everything.
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Old May 15, 2014 | 04:01 PM
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I have the same lift as you. Ran it both without and with front LCA's. At that size of a lift you really don't need either to be honest. Yes your caster is going to be a little on the low side but not enough that it should cause any problems. Adding brackets or even arms is not going "dramatically" improve anything as you said. Adding adjustable arms will bring your caster closer to spec (4.2) and allow you to adjust pinion angles. Your probably in the low 3* range right now for caster.

If you have your mind set up on brackets or arms I'd go with brackets if your mainly going to be on the road they will be better bang for your buck over adjustable control arms. Either one will fix the "flighty" feel but it's by no means going make it drive like a caddy.

Also no need to replace your SS.

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Old May 15, 2014 | 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Val 2.0
Cool, will do! Is this something I can do myself in the driveway or would I have to have a shop install these?
No problems in the driveway. The passenger upper ca bolt can be fun, so do some reading and if you decide to cut it off, have another bolt handy.

The High Steer / Flip options have lift height recommendations/requirements. At 2.5", probably not something for you to look at.
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Old May 15, 2014 | 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by SpicedCrusher
I have the same lift as you. Ran it both without and with front LCA's. At that size of a lift you really don't need either to be honest. Yes your caster is going to be a little on the low side but not enough that it should cause any problems. Adding brackets or even arms is not going "dramatically" improve anything as you said. Adding adjustable arms will bring your caster closer to spec (4.2) and allow you to adjust pinion angles. Your probably in the low 3* range right now for caster.

If you have your mind set up on brackets or arms I'd go with brackets if your mainly going to be on the road they will be better bang for your buck over adjustable control arms. Either one will fix the "flighty" feel but it's by no means going make it drive like a caddy.

Also no need to replace your SS.
Okay, good to go! Gonna try the brackets! Lol @ "Like a Caddy"!
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Old May 15, 2014 | 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by nthinuf
No problems in the driveway. The passenger upper ca bolt can be fun, so do some reading and if you decide to cut it off, have another bolt handy.

The High Steer / Flip options have lift height recommendations/requirements. At 2.5", probably not something for you to look at.
Awesome, thanks!

Why do I get the feeling that in Jeep terms "can be fun" is code for No Fun At All!
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Old May 15, 2014 | 04:30 PM
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I installed the Rancho 4" Sport Lift last summer. It comes with the Rancho relocation brackets which I personally think are better constructed than the others. My caster is 4.7 with the 4" lift and stock control arms. Steering is solid at highway speeds (70mph).

Rancho RS6250B - RANCHO® Control Arm Bracket for 07-14 Jeep® Wrangler & Wrangler Unlimited JK with 3-4" Lift - Quadratec

I'm not sure how they would work with 2.5" lift but I'm sure Rancho tech support would be happy to field your questions.

I noticed a post above from someone who may have removed adjustable control arms and switched to relocation brackets. Why would anyone do that? It's all about the geometry.

When you lift you increase the angle of the control arms because the trailing end is now higher than the leading. More lift equals more angle. Now, when you hit a bump at highway speed, the wheel doesn't just travel up but also must travel forward as it moves up. The counter-force to the wheel forward motion pushes on the Jeep frame and is felt as a bump from the front, an uncomfortable jerky motion. You will never experience this on the trail. It only happens at highway speed.

The relocation brackets reduce the control arm angle so they restore ride comfort on rough roads at speed.

At least that's my story and I'm sticking to it. Your mileage may vary.
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Old May 15, 2014 | 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Val 2.0
Why do I get the feeling that in Jeep terms "can be fun" is code for No Fun At All!
Lol, some people have more trouble with it than others. Always nice to have options.

The blurb from the install doc:
NOTE: Depending on the build of your vehicle you might need to pry the exhaust out of the way to remove and install the RH upper control arm bolt (M12)
And some of mfg's don't even mess with it. They include a new bolt and just tell you to cut it off.
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Old May 15, 2014 | 05:50 PM
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Originally Posted by suprablaski

You had adjustable but got a bracket? And somehow stock with a bracket gets you a better angle then adjustables? You need a better mechanic unless I'm misunderstanding something lol

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I wasn't referring to caster angle, I meant the angle of the control arm relative to the ground. I have a 2 door at 4 inches of lift. I bought them thinking it would simulate the benefit of a long arm kit by making the contol arm a little more horizontal.

I could have, and did, run the adjustable control arm with the drop bracket but there was little need for it. I wanted to change those which were rustys for some metalcloaks any way so I figured I would just go back to stock for a while and sell the adjustable ones.

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Old May 15, 2014 | 06:13 PM
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Another vote for the brackets.

I have done both adjustables and brackets on different Jeeps and found the brackets a much better solution for my needs.

Adjustables will help get your pinion angle correct and not lose any ground clearance.
Brackets will help get your pinion angle correct, ride considerably better than adjustables, but does sacrifice some ground clearance.
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