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Control arms: when would you add them?

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Old Jan 7, 2013 | 07:19 AM
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Default Control arms: when would you add them?

Hi all,

I'm in the process of gathering parts and planning for a minor lift for my 2013 JKUR. What started in my mind as only a level kit has taken on a whole new meaning.

Here's what I plan so far:
Teraflex 2.5 lift kit
Bilstein 5100 shocks 1.5 - 3 lift
Teraflex rear coil spacer w/ guide
Teraflex adjustable Monster Trackbar Front + Rear
Teraflex front lower flex arms
Teraflex rear lower flex arms
Northridge4x4 Bolt upgrade
Spidertrax Wheel Spacer Kit,1-1/2"

Did I over-do it, or do you all think what I have planned and purchased will be sufficient for stability and reliability?

Thanks for the feedback
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Old Jan 7, 2013 | 07:24 AM
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Looks good to me. Only thing I saw was possibly getting rear upper control arms and not the lowers. I read on another thread where someone had a similar question which arms you should replace that was the answer.
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Old Jan 7, 2013 | 07:52 AM
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Originally Posted by cgofort
Hi all,

I'm in the process of gathering parts and planning for a minor lift for my 2013 JKUR. What started in my mind as only a level kit has taken on a whole new meaning.

Here's what I plan so far:
Teraflex 2.5 lift kit
Bilstein 5100 shocks 1.5 - 3 lift
Teraflex rear coil spacer w/ guide
Teraflex adjustable Monster Trackbar Front + Rear
Teraflex front lower flex arms
Teraflex rear lower flex arms
Northridge4x4 Bolt upgrade
Spidertrax Wheel Spacer Kit,1-1/2"

Did I over-do it, or do you all think what I have planned and purchased will be sufficient for stability and reliability?

Thanks for the feedback
Good list, a little overkill but that's about what I would do myself.
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Old Jan 7, 2013 | 08:01 AM
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I would start with lca's front and rear to adjust castor and pinion and move to upper control arms if you decide to go bigger. Good list.
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Old Jan 7, 2013 | 08:47 AM
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This is a good list. But if I could only get REAR upper or lower control arms I would def do the rear upper control arms. But if you can do both then do it
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Old Jan 7, 2013 | 03:08 PM
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You need the lower front arms to adjust the caster angle back closer to stock to prevent wandering. You probably don't need any other arms unless you replace the rear driveshaft and need to dial in the pinion angle. You'd need either upper or lower arms for this, but not both. If you want to push the rear axle back, you'd need both upper and lower rear arms.

Or you could not buy any and see how it drives. You might find you can save some money.
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Old Jan 7, 2013 | 07:46 PM
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Thanks for the feedback, I have purchased all the parts, but haven't installed any as they are all waiting shipping. At this time, I will leave the rear lower control arms off and see how everything goes.

Thanks again,
Charles
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Old Feb 7, 2013 | 08:33 AM
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Originally Posted by TeraFlex

Good list, a little overkill but that's about what I would do myself.
Won't the rear LCAs and the 2.5 coils bow the rear springs and increase rear pinion angle?
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Old Feb 7, 2013 | 09:26 AM
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Rear CA's arn't really a priority. I have 5" of lift (TF) and still run stock Rear Upper & Lower, I only replaced the front upper & lower. Everything looks great and the flex limits are fine (+ w/o rear sway bar)... Yeah, I will eventually replace them to push axle further back, but no issues here going on a year.
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Old Feb 7, 2013 | 09:36 AM
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1. The upper rear arms are used to adjust the pinion angle of the rear axle when you add an aftermarket driveshaft:

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The lower rear arms are used to lengthen your wheel base that is lost when you lift your rig. See how the rear wheels on this rig are more forward than stock because it was lifted 4" without rear lower control arms:

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The front lower arms are used to either regain lost wheel base from a lift or to adjust the angle of the front axle for correct caster alignment, or both.

The front upper arms are used to adjust the angle of the front axle for correct caster alignment specs if the front lower arms were used to regain wheel base.

In some circumstances--like with the Currie adjustable front upper arms--front arms can be adjusted much shorter than stock for correct caster alignment specs if the stock arms are still used.

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So:
o There is no need for rear upper adjustables unless you run an aftermarket driveshaft.
o There is no need for rear lower adjustables unless you feel a need to lengthen/regain your lost wheelbase caused by your lift.
o If you run Currie adjustable front uppers to adjust your caster specs, there is no need for adjustable lowers unless you want to fine tune your alignment or lengthen your wheelbase.
o There is no need for adjustable front uppers if you can properly correct your caster alignment specs with adjustable lowers.
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