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Could a bad steering box cause shimmy/wobble?

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Old Jun 30, 2015 | 02:29 PM
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Ive been chasing my tail. Just upgraded to:

Synergy DL (flipped)
Synergy tie rod
Artec Track bar bracket (raised)
Synergy ball joints

Also running a MC adjustable track bar (welded some washers on frame side bracket)

Did all this about 1500-2000 miles ago. Just hit a pot hole today and felt the onset of death wobble coming and had to slam on my brakes to stop it.

The only thing I Can feel and see is my steering gear shaft (at pitman) has lateral movement when moving the steering wheel side to side. I measured roughly .050-.060" from my rough assessment using some calipers. I've always felt a ton of movement in the steering wheel when going over bumps. Could this be the cause? Any other ideas??
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Old Jun 30, 2015 | 05:01 PM
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I've been fighting it some too did a few of the things like you, alignment, track bar, shop checked it all out, did a basic tire rotation and determined I had either bent wheel or tire separating on inside, as long as wheel is on back no wobble. If that helps.
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Old Jun 30, 2015 | 05:56 PM
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A bad steering box will definitely cause wonky handling, but I can't really see it being the cause of a wobble with .05" of play. I remember when I swapped my steering box, there was a tag attached informing you that they use roller bearings and a bit of play is normal. This was almost 2 years ago so I really cant remember any details about it.

The only other thing I can think of would be going with properly sized grade 8 bolts. I chased wobble for a good long time and it ended up being the TB bolts thats were killing me.
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Old Jun 30, 2015 | 08:00 PM
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Originally Posted by D_engel
A bad steering box will definitely cause wonky handling, but I can't really see it being the cause of a wobble with .05" of play. I remember when I swapped my steering box, there was a tag attached informing you that they use roller bearings and a bit of play is normal. This was almost 2 years ago so I really cant remember any details about it. The only other thing I can think of would be going with properly sized grade 8 bolts. I chased wobble for a good long time and it ended up being the TB bolts thats were killing me.
That's not a bad idea. I've been thinking about getting the bolt kit from northridge but just haven't pulled the trigger.

I also thought about putting my stock trackbar back to see if that changes anything (now that I flipped the DL). I was thinking maybe the MC might be softer because it moves more than I remember the stock one when steering back and forth.

I'll give the bolt kit a try - thanks!!!
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Old Jul 1, 2015 | 07:34 AM
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Originally Posted by sea bass
I also thought about putting my stock trackbar back to see if that changes anything (now that I flipped the DL). I was thinking maybe the MC might be softer because it moves more than I remember the stock one when steering back and forth.
I have the same issue with my JKS. The bushing allows for a good deal more movement than stock, so under the right conditions I can experience a minor wobble. I may try throwing the stock bar back on as well when it cools off a bit.
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Old Jul 1, 2015 | 09:07 AM
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Doesn't JKS have different bushing options?
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Old Jul 1, 2015 | 11:00 AM
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I never had a wobble, but I definitely had loose steering with my 37s. I don't want say this works for everyone, but I added a steering shaft brace and it was a significant improvement.

I wheel a lot and mostly in rocks, and I found that I could burn up stock drag link ends in no time. Worth considering an upgrade to real 1 ton ends.

Another item often over looked are the front hubs. I think I had one that lasted 10k miles and another that went 12k miles. That will start a nice wobble for you.
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Old Jul 1, 2015 | 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by kjeeper10
Doesn't JKS have different bushing options?
I dont think they did when I put it on 4 years ago. Ill look into it.
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Old Jul 1, 2015 | 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Invest2m4
I never had a wobble, but I definitely had loose steering with my 37s. I don't want say this works for everyone, but I added a steering shaft brace and it was a significant improvement. I wheel a lot and mostly in rocks, and I found that I could burn up stock drag link ends in no time. Worth considering an upgrade to real 1 ton ends. Another item often over looked are the front hubs. I think I had one that lasted 10k miles and another that went 12k miles. That will start a nice wobble for you.
What's the test for hubs? Just like a regular wheel bearing I assume? Jack it up, rock top and bottom?

Anyone else making a good brace? I assume RSP is still out of business ?

I've though about buying the syngergy brace only (not trackbar reinforcement bracket) and welding it on. Not sure if that's a good idea or not.
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Old Jul 2, 2015 | 02:27 AM
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Originally Posted by sea bass
What's the test for hubs? Just like a regular wheel bearing I assume? Jack it up, rock top and bottom? Anyone else making a good brace? I assume RSP is still out of business ? I've though about buying the syngergy brace only (not trackbar reinforcement bracket) and welding it on. Not sure if that's a good idea or not.
Correct, give it a wiggle. Should not be any play.

Yeah, RSP is long gone. I still have the latest version and have thought about producing something similar. Have to get my Jeep done first though, haha.
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