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Old Sep 28, 2008 | 07:33 PM
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I just installed a 3" lift. Tonight on the way home from denver on I70 i got DW and almost caused a major pile up in the middle of the rockies with tractor tailers locking up and sliding. This is not safe. I want to know what i need to do to stop this. All bolts are tight and to spec. Front adjustable trac bar centered and tight to spec. no worn out bushings. I am still running my stock tires and wheels. My steering stabilizer is new ( warranty fix) My guess is my alignment to which i did not do after i installed the lift because i am waiting on my new wheels and tires. The jeep tracks straight as an arrow down the highway so i didn't bother to align yet.

Can i adjust my alignment to cure this if i do not have adjustable control arms? Is this normal to happen to just A 3" lift with stock tires? Thank you...this is just plane unsafe to drive and needs to be fixed ASAP so i am looking for fresh answers and advice!
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Old Sep 28, 2008 | 08:11 PM
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Originally Posted by voodoojk
...All bolts are tight and to spec. Front adjustable trac bar centered and tight to spec...
What kind of torque wrench did you use? Maybe it's not good???
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Old Sep 28, 2008 | 08:21 PM
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What kind of torque wrench did you use? Maybe it's not good???
well it was a top of the line Snap On that the tech uses everyday for vw/audi so i hope its in spec! lol
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Old Sep 28, 2008 | 08:27 PM
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well it was a top of the line Snap On that the tech uses everyday for vw/audi so i hope its in spec! lol
Snap-on is a good name. I've seen other talking about some cheap digital ones, which may or may not be calibrated properly.

I assume you also tightened the jam nut on the trac bar (don’t know how to torque the nut).

Also, I assume you tightened all suspension parts with the weight of your Jeep on them (i.e. not with the Jeep supported by the frame in the air).
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Old Sep 28, 2008 | 08:30 PM
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yes to all....
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Old Sep 28, 2008 | 08:30 PM
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How fast were you going when the wobble started? I had an unbalanced Staun internal that caused mine but it was fine as long as I stayed under 65mph. Had to drive it like that from LA to Moab.
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Old Sep 28, 2008 | 08:47 PM
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How fast were you going when the wobble started? I had an unbalanced Staun internal that caused mine but it was fine as long as I stayed under 65mph. Had to drive it like that from LA to Moab.
i was going about 65mph. I been feeling the front driver wheel wobble this weekend but i could usually drive through it and it would go away after hitting bridge gaps and small pot holes and cracks at speed. this time it went all the way till i stopped.
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Old Sep 28, 2008 | 08:48 PM
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It seems like most of the time it’s caused by a mis-torqued nut. You could always re-check them again?
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Old Sep 28, 2008 | 09:10 PM
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i was going about 65mph. I been feeling the front driver wheel wobble this weekend but i could usually drive through it and it would go away after hitting bridge gaps and small pot holes and cracks at speed. this time it went all the way till i stopped.
let's be perfectly clear here, DW is an extremely violent shaking of your entire jeep and to the point where you feel like you're gonna crash. the only thing that will stop it is stopping your jeep. a wobble in your driver wheel and at such a high speed would not be something i would consider DW. typically, DW occurs at a much lower speed like 30-40 MPH and is often TRIGGERED after hitting a bump in the road and a lot of times, when slowing down - not the other way around. need i say, i seriously doubt that you have DW but you might want to get your wheels balanced again.
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Old Sep 28, 2008 | 10:16 PM
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Originally Posted by pigeonfarmboy
How fast were you going when the wobble started? I had an unbalanced Staun internal that caused mine but it was fine as long as I stayed under 65mph. Had to drive it like that from LA to Moab.
Originally Posted by wayoflife
let's be perfectly clear here, DW is an extremely violent shaking of your entire jeep and to the point where you feel like you're gonna crash. the only thing that will stop it is stopping your jeep. a wobble in your driver wheel and at such a high speed would not be something i would consider DW. typically, DW occurs at a much lower speed like 30-40 MPH and is often TRIGGERED after hitting a bump in the road and a lot of times, when slowing down - not the other way around. need i say, i seriously doubt that you have DW but you might want to get your wheels balanced again.
you read it out of order. up to the point of the DW, my front end would shake on every hard bump like DW was starting but it subsided. The jeep drives smooth as could be on normal road.This time..when i hit particularly hard on a ridge in the pavement,the entire jeep started to shake, the front end felt like it was coming off the ground, the tires were making loud chirping sounds on the road and everything in the jeep went flying all over. I was being shaken around so much my hat flew off my head.the steering wheel all but ripped out of my hand. It was visibly violent enough that the tractor trailer on my ass locked up his brakes and smoked all his trailer tires while i went bouncing onto the shoulder and came to a stop. I let traffic go.. pulled back out and smooth as ice. Its not a wheel balance problem. it is DW. dont doubt it.
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