difference in winch cable
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JK Enthusiast
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difference in winch cable
Hey everyone,
I've got a warm m8000 and a small kink in my steel cable that i fear might have weakened the whole thing. I am considering switching to a synthetic line and have been shopping around on northridge4x4.com for their selection.
Their options are the viking synthetic at $135 or warn synthetic winch line at $684.
http://www.northridge4x4.com/products.php?cat=120
I have three question.
1) Is there a difference in quality or strength between the warn and viking that explains the HUDGE difference in price?
2) If I purchase the viking they have two sizes 5/16" or 3/8", does its thickness have to be the EXACT same as the steel cable I currently have on my winch, because I would naturally go for the thicker and stronger one?
3)How can i find out what thickness will function properly with my winch?
anyways, I've chosen to go synthetic mainly because every time I've winched with my steel cable it has gotten crushed on the drum while being spooled in under tension because it spooled all in the same place and didn't spread out on the length of the drum. This is how the kink occurred and if I'm not mistaken such a thing wont happen with a synthetic line.
I've got a warm m8000 and a small kink in my steel cable that i fear might have weakened the whole thing. I am considering switching to a synthetic line and have been shopping around on northridge4x4.com for their selection.
Their options are the viking synthetic at $135 or warn synthetic winch line at $684.
http://www.northridge4x4.com/products.php?cat=120
I have three question.
1) Is there a difference in quality or strength between the warn and viking that explains the HUDGE difference in price?
2) If I purchase the viking they have two sizes 5/16" or 3/8", does its thickness have to be the EXACT same as the steel cable I currently have on my winch, because I would naturally go for the thicker and stronger one?
3)How can i find out what thickness will function properly with my winch?
anyways, I've chosen to go synthetic mainly because every time I've winched with my steel cable it has gotten crushed on the drum while being spooled in under tension because it spooled all in the same place and didn't spread out on the length of the drum. This is how the kink occurred and if I'm not mistaken such a thing wont happen with a synthetic line.
JK Freak
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From: Houston, TX
When spooling synthetic line, you still have to spread it out and spool it onto the drum neatly for best reliability and strength.
With most synthetic lines, you can usually go one size smaller than the steel line you're replacing. 5/16 is fine for a Jeep, 3/8 would be for a 3/4 or 1 ton pickup.
Remember to use either a new hawse fairlead (with no steel shavings from the old cable) or Daystar poly rollers on your roller fairlead.
And the Viking is good, the Warn is WAY too overpriced.
With most synthetic lines, you can usually go one size smaller than the steel line you're replacing. 5/16 is fine for a Jeep, 3/8 would be for a 3/4 or 1 ton pickup.
Remember to use either a new hawse fairlead (with no steel shavings from the old cable) or Daystar poly rollers on your roller fairlead.
And the Viking is good, the Warn is WAY too overpriced.
JK Enthusiast
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From: Some Place in Africa
i'm sorry im not answering your question.
but imo, if i were in your boat, getting stuck (assuming), it sounds like you use it a lot (assuming again) I would upgrade tires or suspension @ for that price (the more expensive winch line)
just an opinion. and i would like to hear the answer to your question as well
but imo, if i were in your boat, getting stuck (assuming), it sounds like you use it a lot (assuming again) I would upgrade tires or suspension @ for that price (the more expensive winch line)
just an opinion. and i would like to hear the answer to your question as well
JK Super Freak
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From: Olean NY
I just bought a viking 80 foot 3/8 line for my smittybuilt xrc 8000. I would go with the 3/8. With the Warn 8000 you will need to get only 80 feet of 3/8. any more and it wont fit on. I havent winched yet but It seems very tough. Got mine from Northridge. Dave hooked me up with a sweet deal.
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Hey everyone,
I've got a warm m8000 and a small kink in my steel cable that i fear might have weakened the whole thing. I am considering switching to a synthetic line and have been shopping around on northridge4x4.com for their selection.
Their options are the viking synthetic at $135 or warn synthetic winch line at $684.
http://www.northridge4x4.com/products.php?cat=120
I have three question.
1) Is there a difference in quality or strength between the warn and viking that explains the HUDGE difference in price?
2) If I purchase the viking they have two sizes 5/16" or 3/8", does its thickness have to be the EXACT same as the steel cable I currently have on my winch, because I would naturally go for the thicker and stronger one?
3)How can i find out what thickness will function properly with my winch?
anyways, I've chosen to go synthetic mainly because every time I've winched with my steel cable it has gotten crushed on the drum while being spooled in under tension because it spooled all in the same place and didn't spread out on the length of the drum. This is how the kink occurred and if I'm not mistaken such a thing wont happen with a synthetic line.
I've got a warm m8000 and a small kink in my steel cable that i fear might have weakened the whole thing. I am considering switching to a synthetic line and have been shopping around on northridge4x4.com for their selection.
Their options are the viking synthetic at $135 or warn synthetic winch line at $684.
http://www.northridge4x4.com/products.php?cat=120
I have three question.
1) Is there a difference in quality or strength between the warn and viking that explains the HUDGE difference in price?
2) If I purchase the viking they have two sizes 5/16" or 3/8", does its thickness have to be the EXACT same as the steel cable I currently have on my winch, because I would naturally go for the thicker and stronger one?
3)How can i find out what thickness will function properly with my winch?
anyways, I've chosen to go synthetic mainly because every time I've winched with my steel cable it has gotten crushed on the drum while being spooled in under tension because it spooled all in the same place and didn't spread out on the length of the drum. This is how the kink occurred and if I'm not mistaken such a thing wont happen with a synthetic line.
If you are willing to spend up to 684$ I would also suggest Master Pull Super line. You can get 5/16" with a full abrasion guard for less than the Warn line. It is also way stronger. Regular 5/16" synthetic line breaking strength is about 12,330lbs. The master pull superline 5/16" is rated at 21,000lbs.
I also started a thread a while back to see if anyone was using 100FT of 3/8 line on a M8000 and it sounds like it will fit but I haven't tried it yet. I was planning on going with Amsteel blue but now I am thinking about the master pull superline. That way I can stay with 5/16" and it will still be stronger than the normal 3/8 synthetic line.
JK Super Freak
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From: Olean NY
If u meant 3/8 than that would be my advice. U can always get an extension if u r worried about enough line. u dont want to be spolling in ur cable and have 15 feet that wont fit so i think u should go with 80 feet.