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Does this front trackbar bracket hole look wallowed?

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Old Dec 11, 2009 | 03:29 PM
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Default Does this front trackbar bracket hole look wallowed?

From the backside of the front body side trackbar mount:



Would this be considered a wallowed out hole?
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Old Dec 11, 2009 | 03:39 PM
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Might help if we could see the whole hole.
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Old Dec 11, 2009 | 03:42 PM
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lol whole hole....er...anyway, I have the bolt pressed firmly up against the right side so what gap there is, is only on the left.

Video of me moving the bolt around:

http://www.deepskye.com/images/Jeep/wallowed02.avi
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Old Dec 11, 2009 | 03:44 PM
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Hmmm, ask hellbound, he's the expert on wallowed hoes, uh holes.
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Old Dec 11, 2009 | 03:45 PM
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I would say YES!
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Old Dec 11, 2009 | 04:16 PM
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it's difficult to tell even from the video because you don't try to show any play laterally.

Is that because there is no lateral play? If there isn't any lateral play then there is wallow because the hole should be round.

In the photo there appears to be metal particles inside the track bar bushing. If they are metal, where did those come from?

The easy way to tell is on the original bolt. Any wallowing (this is beginning to sound like a limerick ) would have caused by the original bolt and it should show some noticeable wear on the threads.

You can also put something round like a washer slightly larger than the hole and draw a circle around the edge of it with a pencil. You can immediately tell how out of the round the hole is.
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Old Dec 11, 2009 | 04:55 PM
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what camera!? great quality picture. I have no cmment about the hle...i can't tell one way or the other
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Old Dec 11, 2009 | 06:02 PM
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Originally Posted by mkjeep
Hmmm, ask hellbound, he's the expert on wallowed hoes, uh holes.
lol well where is he in my time of need?

Originally Posted by spinlock
it's difficult to tell even from the video because you don't try to show any play laterally.

Is that because there is no lateral play? If there isn't any lateral play then there is wallow because the hole should be round.

In the photo there appears to be metal particles inside the track bar bushing. If they are metal, where did those come from?

The easy way to tell is on the original bolt. Any wallowing (this is beginning to sound like a limerick ) would have caused by the original bolt and it should show some noticeable wear on the threads.

You can also put something round like a washer slightly larger than the hole and draw a circle around the edge of it with a pencil. You can immediately tell how out of the round the hole is.
Thanks for the replies. There really isn't any horizontal play, just a little vertical and only on the back side of the mount. How much "wallowing" does it take to cause front end instability?

I'll double check the threads maybe I can get a new fresh bolt.

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what camera!? great quality picture. I have no cmment about the hle...i can't tell one way or the other
Thanks, I always try and get the best visual representation of what I'm talking about.
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Old Dec 11, 2009 | 08:27 PM
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Are you having any probs with the suspension right now?
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Old Dec 11, 2009 | 08:47 PM
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Is your suspension tracking funny? I would either drill it out for a larger bolt or weld a washer on the outside. These are the two easiest fixes I think.
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