Installed teraflex front adjustable lca's, adjusted caster, alignment and centered steering wheel. I've been back on the same curvey roads and exit ramps and no more esp light or pumping brakes. Also installed a jks front track bar bracket(stock one broke while wheeln a few weeks ago), teraflex steering stabilizer with woods relocation kit. Seems like it rides a lot better now.

 

Congrats!

I get really frustrated with all the threads where people just recommend turning ESP off instead of addressing the real mechanical problems. People bad mouth the ESP when the real issue is with their setup. When you're lift is done right, ESP is a non-issue and will function perfectly. It will also save your ass when you hit black ice in a curve going 50 mph.

 

that's a good point. I disabled mine just for playing in the snow but I'm going to enable it before I get my lift on to make sure that its installed correcty. Its a very advanced system and may pick up on something i don't "feel".

 

Not sure if thats true. I hit black ice going 25 and the ESP did not help for shit. One's the skid starts on black ice your done. I drive on ice every year, and have found the way that works for me is to slow way down and down shift to slow down to a stop.

That being said, I think we just start to depend on our cars to do all the work rather than use our common sense.

 

I raced karts, motocross and a formula car in the SCCA. I wasn't the greatest driver, but I have some experience with car control at the limit. I can tell you without a doubt that ESP can do things a human driver cannot do. ESP will detect and attempt to correct problems long before the average driver will sense and react to them. We have no ability to apply the brakes to individual tires extremely rapidly. We cannot detect and start taking action to an unexpected directional yaw in under 25 milliseconds.

Will it save it save you in every instance? No. Will it save you most of the time and reduce the severity of the situation in the other times? Yes. For 99% of the worlds drivers driving normally (i.e. not racing) it will improve their performance during sudden unexpected departures from directional control.

Being a piss poor amatuer hack of a race car driver that 99% certainly includes me as well. We have a particularly nasty curvy road here that gets black ice in the corners once or twice a year. My 2003 liberty has no ESP. I've put it through a ditch into some nice folks front yard twice now in one particular corner. It seems those homeowners are used to having people unexpectedly park their cars in their front yard. I also hit the same conditions once in my 2008 rubicon. I felt the ESP kick in THEN realized the tail was coming out. I countersteered (while the ESP continued to fire) and was able to keep it on the road. Had I been in the Liberty without ESP I'd have been having coffee with those nice home owners again (or worse!).