how do you mean?

 

i found this and i also recently e-mailed warn for a clarifaction on it and The only one that made any sense was ((with synthetic you should not spool it up perfectly to avoid the "log-splitting" effect and the consequential jamming, friction etc.
Optimally you would spool every layer (but the first) criss-cross at an angle of about 30 deg. You do not want the top layer to creep through to the lower layers, jamming.
When spooling in and reaching a new layer, see if you can get some of the strain off the line, and push it a bit skew on the spool.
Reason:
While wire rope should be spooled nice and even because it does not get squished in the same way, it is a beast to get loose when the rope binds in the layers.
Synthetic on the other hand, will get squished and may then jam some but is easier to undo again when loosened up.
Squishing the synthetic line does not harm it really, but the heat generated with friction under load in this "nearly a knot" may do so.
With the added ventilation in an untidy spooling, your synthetic will stay cooler and dry out easier.))

 

Great stuff, thanks! I have had that very problem (squishing).

 

Another question, how do you guide the line onto the drum if u are in the jeep?

 

1st time installing, ideally would be a 2 person job, but i did it by myself.

Here's what I did: (disclaimer--not saying this is perfect, but what I have done recently from advice i found on here)

1st wound on the 1st 2 layers not under any load.

Parked my wife's car and put it in park and applied emergency brake on her car and attached the hook of the winch from my jeep to her tow hook.

Then I started the Jeep, used my superchips flashpaq to increase my idle rpm to 2000 or so, put it in neutral, applied emergency brake slightly and I was on a slight uphill, then I started winding in the line while standing in front of the Jeep helping to make sure it wound in a cris/cross pattern every wrap.


In a recovery situation--DON'T STAND IN FRONT OF THE JEEP FOR ANY REASON.
You just have to hope that it's winding back up pretty good and if not, when you're done recovering, do the procedure above to rewind it back on properly.

 

wait so noone was in the jeep when you spooled it in?

 

There's another thread here on JK-Forum about using the winch for recovery. Someone brought up that they've heard too many tales of broken winch lines whiplashing and "taking out someone's head" who was seated in the Jeep. They therefore prefer a wireless winch remote because they can stand away from the recovery operation, especially when buy themselves. Seems like a funny way to run a winch--without anyone in the vehicle with the winch (and especially so if it's a self-recovery!). Far less of an issue with synthetic line, but there are some folks on this forum with unusual ideas about threats and safety during recovery. Personally, I'm more concerned about the Jeep rolling unexpectedly and someone needing to be in the driver's seat to brake and steer. Shouldn't happen, but that's why we call it a PREcaution.

 

yea i dont think i feel comfortable winching, or just moving the jeep for that matter, without myself or at least someone in there to brake or steer.
I had just always heard to stand away from the winch, but as you said, i would think with synthetic line, it wouldnt be much of a hazzard standing near the winch during operation.

 

yeah, it's not like I was winching myself out of a mudhole. I was just spooling it for the 1st time on a new winch.

On Dry Pavement in my driveway, straight pull, only slightly uphill, no curves, never needed to turn the steering wheel, parking brake was on partially, so even if Jeep came loose, it's not going anywhere.

Like I said, I would never do anything like that in a recovery situation, just to spool the line on with tension.

 

i gotcha. good deal, im gonna do that and criss cross it, i just dont know where to find a 100"+ driveway