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Internal beadlocks???

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Old Dec 16, 2008 | 10:42 PM
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The Staun ones come from an original Swedish military design called Tireloc. They are better than not having bead locks, but the experience I had wasn't so good. That setup hates mud. Since you have this small inflated "tire" inside, when you air down the outer tire, it has a tendency to try to roll off rounded surfaces, instead of hugging it like regular beadlocks. If your on a steep side incline it's a scary feeling. Mud also starts to creep inside at the bead. Every time you go hard core mudding you have to disassemble and clean, and as some mentioned, it's a real PITA. There are some advantages. If you puncture the outer tire, you can still drive slowly on the inner like a runflat. It has a protective type of kevlar layer to protect the inner tube. I personally would stick to regular beadlocks. These things are a real hassle to deal with.
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Old Dec 17, 2008 | 12:17 AM
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Any of you have experience in installing beadlock, I'm considering a rock monster Hutchinson set, and it seems to be difficult? what about balance?
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Old Dec 17, 2008 | 01:40 AM
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I've installd procomp beadlocks, its fairly easy
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Old Dec 17, 2008 | 05:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Chris_CH
Any of you have experience in installing beadlock, I'm considering a rock monster Hutchinson set, and it seems to be difficult? what about balance?
I was talking to a guy at a run once that had Hutchinsons, and he installed them himself - he was an older guy and indicated they were very easy to put together, even for him.
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Old Dec 17, 2008 | 07:12 AM
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[/B](MOPAR HUTCHINSON,AEV,DOT .)WALKEREVANS,POISONSPIDER,EATON,TRAILREADY
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Old Dec 17, 2008 | 07:22 AM
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YOU HAVE TO TAKE A LOOK AT THE RIM WALL THAT IS DESIGNED WITH BEADLOCKS.WHEN YOU PUT A INTERNAL BEADLOCK IN A NON BEADLOCK WHEEL YOU DONT HAVE A STONGER RIM WALL PROTECTION AGAINST THE IMPACTS
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Old Dec 17, 2008 | 06:58 PM
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I mounted my Toyo 35X12.5/17 on the Rock Monster Hutchinson rims in the garage one day while waiting on the Rubicon to be delivered.
An air ratchet is a nice thing to have, it's a lot of bolts.
Plus it can be a little problematic getting the bolts on the three longer studs at first.
Usually you have to tighten one down a bit to get the other one or two to give you enough threads for engagement. Then it's nothing to it. You do have to be careful to make sure the o-ring stays in place, you can use vaseline to help hold it in, but I found it really wasn't needed.
Then you have a lot of bolts to torque to spec, a little time consuming but not a problem.
Plus, 4200 miles later they are still exactly as I tightened them, and at 75-80 ft-lbs, they aren't coming loose. Hutchinson reccommends checking them every 5k miles.

With the excellent Toyos, my tire/wheels have never been balanced, they are very smooth at speeds up to 95mph, the fastest I've ever had the Rubicon.
Of course off roading may cause you to need to balance them, as may rotation, the tire guy at the best local independent shop said not a problem at all.

Now dissassembly, that may be a chore.


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Old Dec 18, 2008 | 07:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Chris_CH
Any of you have experience in installing beadlock, I'm considering a rock monster Hutchinson set, and it seems to be difficult? what about balance?
I've got a set of Hutchinsons that I used to run on an H1. They aren't that difficult at all to put together. The hard part is taking them apart after they have been together for a year or two .

I bought a case of some "special grease" that they said would make disassembly much easier.

I literally spent hours trying to take the first one apart. The hard part was breaking the bead and pulling everything away from the inner rubber beadlock . Taking them apart while on the trail would be a big chore.

I eventually developed a technique that would work almost anywhere. I built a wooden jig and used the weight of the truck to break the bead and separate the tire from the rubber beadlock. Basically I jacked the truck up with the weight on the jig which pressed against the bead. The bottom of the tire was supported to prevent damage to the rim.

Even with the effort to disassemble, I really like those rims. A bit on the heavy side, but nice and strong.

With respect to balancing, the particular set I have didn't work well with clip on weights. Basically they all flew off on the trip back from the tire shop. The Rock Monsters are a slightly different design, mine are are a billet aluminum prototype that just wasn't meant to work with clip on weights. In the end I ran them unbalanced. Didn't seem to bad with 37" MT/Rs.

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Old Dec 18, 2008 | 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted by jayrav
A PITA???? Why?
I haven't personally installed the Stauns, I just meant that I read a review with some comments that it was difficult getting everything together. If I find the link, I'll post it.

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Old Dec 21, 2008 | 04:55 AM
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Originally Posted by ChrisL
I haven't personally installed the Stauns, I just meant that I read a review with some comments that it was difficult getting everything together. If I find the link, I'll post it.

Chris.
You don't need the link. I had them for 2 years, and they were a PITA to mount. If you do a lot of mud, you will need to pull them apart a lot since mud creeps inside, and that is even more a PITA.
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