I had the opposite experience as opposed to the above comment saying mud's do ok on packed snow but terrible in deep snow. I have 35" KM2s and they suck on ice and packed snow just because of weight distribution over the bigger tire, however in the deeper snow I found it to do very well. Great advice about the siping, I may take mine in next week if it works that well. The only downside is I hear siping wears your tired out quicker, anyone know how much mileage you lose? -T

 

Ice is ice. it just sucks for everything. But you should be fine. It must either be a really steep hill or your going to fast.

 

In my experience, mud tires are horrible on snow and ice. I personally always use dedicated snow tires during the winter months (I'm a huge fan of Nokian Hakkapeliitta). I've used BFG A/T K/O tires on a 99 Dodge Dakota in the past. They worked great, including driving in up to 3 feet of snow and icy or wet conditions.

Studded tires are not legal for all of Ontario. Only residents living north of and including Parry Sound and Nipissing Districts can now use studded tires on their vehicles. The Original Poster appears to live in Barrie. No dice.

Northern Ontario residents can use studded tires with lightweight studs, anywhere in Ontario, from October 1 to April 30 inclusive. Using illegal studs, driving outside the legal time period, and Southern Ontario residents using studs on their vehicles can result in fines of up to $1,000.

Source: Personal experience (I've lived in Ontario for 27 years.) Also http://www.mto.gov.on.ca/english/faq...le.shtml#studs

 

I under stand your pain brando13. Perfect world would be dedicated snow tires,however,they are not tall enough to use with 513s(i think) i am having 513s installed as we speak and have had 99inches of snow in northern mich and am used to driving on snow pack. Siping did help!!! I went to hanook rf 10s and they are pretty good.still push threw some turns. We need a 35 x10.50 that is good on hard pack. To many readers think snow tire is off road snow,that is not what a lot of people are needing. We know the mud terrain is the best for off road snow!! And its the most fun also! The guy from canada loves his toyo m55-i think they are 34' tall and would work ok with 513s i think. Hope i helped

 

Thanks, I wasn't aware that there was a distinction between Northern and Southern Ontario..

 

Is there a reason (other than inconvenience) not to use chains?

 

They are illegal in some areas/ on some roads.
Legal times of the year to run them varies.
You cant go very fast without risking throwing one. (there is probably a law about max speed as well)
Throwing a tire chain can be devestatingly costly, if your lucky, it just falls off.

 

On my way up to the giant sequoias Sunday I saw a little honda throw a set of chains. They whipped up and did some massive damage to the side of the car.

 

not only that you dont need chains all the time mostly ice builds up at stop signs street lights and other slow moving traffic areas so it would be a pain always getting out and putting them on and taking them off.
And yes throwing a chain causes big damage especially if it catches a brake line or ebrake cable

 

The BFG all terrains do very well on ice and snowpack, fair in deep snow. I've had several sets over the years. Siping is fifteen to twenty dollars a tire here, and well worth it if you are running mud tires (which suck on ice). I have ran many tires over the years in many conditions. The Best I have come up with is to run studded and siped aggresive tires in the winter if you can. Anything with lots of fine grooving (siping) will usually work well on ice. I have MTR's on the jeep right now and I agree, they work pretty good all around. I just picked up my 37 KM2's, havn't installed them yet. Good luck!