JK Control Arms: Short versus Long with 4" lift
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JK Control Arms: Short versus Long with 4" lift
I have a 4-door JK and I am considering the Johnny Joint CAs. What are your views on getting short versus long arms? I have a 4" lift and 35" tires.
1. Better on-road handling with short arms
2. More travel and articulation off-road with long arms
3. Is additional cost on parts and labor for long arms worth it?
4. Maintanence
5. Would just starting with front lower and rear upper short arms be in improvement?
6. I have installed front and rear CV drive shafts (Coast 1310) and 5.13 diff gearing
Note: I have not installed longer front or rear track bars, but would with the new CAs
1. Better on-road handling with short arms
2. More travel and articulation off-road with long arms
3. Is additional cost on parts and labor for long arms worth it?
4. Maintanence
5. Would just starting with front lower and rear upper short arms be in improvement?
6. I have installed front and rear CV drive shafts (Coast 1310) and 5.13 diff gearing
Note: I have not installed longer front or rear track bars, but would with the new CAs
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actually, long arms will give you better ON-ROAD handling as they will restore your supension geometry to being closer to stock. also, long arms don't necessarily give you more articulation, they just give you more correct articulation. if anything, they can potentially rob you of ground clearance. depending on the joints your arms have, maintenace would be the same. adjustable front lowers will allow you to add a bit more positive caster and that will help your jeep to feel less flightly at highway speeds. rear uppers are only needed if you install a u-joint style drive shaft.
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actually, long arms will give you better ON-ROAD handling as they will restore your supension geometry to being closer to stock. also, long arms don't necessarily give you more articulation, they just give you more correct articulation. if anything, they can potentially rob you of ground clearance. depending on the joints your arms have, maintenace would be the same. adjustable front lowers will allow you to add a bit more positive caster and that will help your jeep to feel less flightly at highway speeds. rear uppers are only needed if you install a u-joint style drive shaft.
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i have personally run teraflex, full-traction and jks control arms and they are all great choices. being that you're only planning to run 35's, i would stick with short arms. if you were to go to 37's or bigger, long arms would be the way to go.
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I have invested in 5.13 gearing. Aside from an increase in ground clearance what advantage would their be in running 37" tires? Wouldn't want to later buy 5.38 gearing. Installing short arms would limit my choices later. However, long arms are about $1,300 more with parts and labor.
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I have invested in 5.13 gearing. Aside from an increase in ground clearance what advantage would their be in running 37" tires? Wouldn't want to later buy 5.38 gearing. Installing short arms would limit my choices later. However, long arms are about $1,300 more with parts and labor.
in addition to increased ground clearance, 37's would also give you greater breakover angles, a bigger footprint and the ability to overcome larger obstacles and taller ledges. but, for most people, 35's is all that you really need and it's a lot cheaper way to go. for whatever it's worth, there's nothing wrong with short arms and the ones that come on JK's are actually pretty long especially when compared to the old TJ. in fact, i have run short arms with 37's and coilovers in the past and it worked great.
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actually, running 37's and 5.13's is a good strong setup and what i prefer to run. depending on how hard you play, 5.38's would be a weak point as the pinion gets to be real small.
in addition to increased ground clearance, 37's would also give you greater breakover angles, a bigger footprint and the ability to overcome larger obstacles and taller ledges. but, for most people, 35's is all that you really need and it's a lot cheaper way to go. for whatever it's worth, there's nothing wrong with short arms and the ones that come on JK's are actually pretty long especially when compared to the old TJ. in fact, i have run short arms with 37's and coilovers in the past and it worked great.
in addition to increased ground clearance, 37's would also give you greater breakover angles, a bigger footprint and the ability to overcome larger obstacles and taller ledges. but, for most people, 35's is all that you really need and it's a lot cheaper way to go. for whatever it's worth, there's nothing wrong with short arms and the ones that come on JK's are actually pretty long especially when compared to the old TJ. in fact, i have run short arms with 37's and coilovers in the past and it worked great.
ruling out cost as a factor my question is the 2 or 3 days of labor to install the long arms myself worth the ride difference on and off road? i am looking at the rock krawler long arm due to the improved ground clearance and design or full set of currie arms.