LoD Fullwidth bumper w/ tire carrier...
When it comes to wiring, I'm like a legless person in an ass kicking contest.... it says "7-pin trailer harness".... I don't a recessed hitch or the wiring for a trailer... is that going to be an issue or is it totally not related to this intall?
Gotcha... my brother is the electrician-savy person for this but he isn't on hear or reading this, so I am asking the questions. Your help is greatly appreciated.
No need to, but thanks for the offer...as I'm sure its not going to be like a bomb under a bus like on the movie Speed with a ton of wires. I have a multimeter reader and my brother will be around for that part of the install.
Running this setup a while and really like it. Make sure you seal up your wiring/connections so corrosion doesn't get in and then you have to pull the bumper to get the lights working again. It's not the bumper's fault ... the Jeeps frame rail is *right there* so it blocks access, and I like it that way because if the bumper didn't come all the way back to the frame rail it'd hook obstacles.
And don't do like I did and get it all done only to realize the wiring I was so careful with was pinched on the frame rail.
It's seen some hard hits and good use.
If you crawl rocks and drop off ledges a drag bar is a good addition too. Dunno if I made that up or not but it's that bar in my receiver pictured below that keeps me from dropping the spare on stuff that'd torque the tire carrier. Although oddly enough the one time I know that bar has saved my carrier I wasn't crawling rocks I was laying on the rear bumper trying to crawl out of a creek bed I'd slid into.

And don't do like I did and get it all done only to realize the wiring I was so careful with was pinched on the frame rail.
It's seen some hard hits and good use.
If you crawl rocks and drop off ledges a drag bar is a good addition too. Dunno if I made that up or not but it's that bar in my receiver pictured below that keeps me from dropping the spare on stuff that'd torque the tire carrier. Although oddly enough the one time I know that bar has saved my carrier I wasn't crawling rocks I was laying on the rear bumper trying to crawl out of a creek bed I'd slid into.
Originally Posted by Imposter_LRF
Yeah, I have it that way...let me find that poor man's schematic
BAM! Poor man's schematic (bear in mind that the trigger line on the reverse lights from the 7-pin harness is already fused via the vehicle fuse box so I didn't fuse that wire again):
If there's anyone reading this who has the shorty and some others with the full width LoD rear bumpers that they could post pictures of? Preferably from the side, showing the clearance between the bumper and the rear tires? I'm trying to determine whether I want the shorty or full width. My rear tires touch my stock bumper under full compression.
Just came back from Overland Expo. Got some mad learnin' done there.
One thing that I picked up was that the 48" Hi Lift that most of us have, including me, is looked down upon as too short by the serious dudes. I found that out in several of the classes I took, including rollover recovery. It's just that with a lifted Jeep, by the time you start getting to usable height, you're near the top of your range on a 48", especially if you have great articulation. You can work around this sometimes by doing a 'jack and stack' with a direct tire lift, but that doesn't always work, and if your winch is dead, or you don't have one and you're using your Hi-Lift as a come-a-long to get out of a hole or recover a rolled vehicle, you're going to really wish you had that extra 12" when you're having to secure your lift or winch out, and reset the jack every 4 feet. Additionally, the First Responder will act as a poor man's jaws of life to spread a windshield or open a door, which is very cool. Anyway, so what did I do? I bought the Hi-lift First Responder 60" because I'm a sucker. This thing is a beast. It also has purty colors on it.
I digress.
So I thought I could just pop onto my Rampage tailgate mount that is currently holding my Hi Lift 'Extreme' (they made lots of fun of the 'extreme' moniker at Overland Expo), and everything would be cool. No such luck. The multi-use base on the First Responder is too big for the seat on the rampage tailgate mount. And the screw down cross pin to hold the jack in place is too low for the first available hole in the First Responder due to the larger dimensions of the jack's mechanicals. While I could probably make the Rampage work with some mods, the weight of the jack and increased likelihood of injury for someone in an accident means that I want to find a better way to mount the 60" First Responder. I'm not down with hood mounts and my Gobi has too much stuff on it already, plus I don't want that weight so high up.
All of this brings me to my question.
Does anyone have a 60" Hi Lift mounted on the LoD tire carrier? Or a Garvin G2? Garvin said on the phone that it would work but extend past the taillight. The Garvin is lower, which is better for COG, but the LoD looks more stout. About to do Dyntrac 44/60 hybrids on 35's, yes 35's, not 37's, with a lift and want to do the LoD full width if it will carry my 60" Hi-Lift.
Any thoughts out there?
One thing that I picked up was that the 48" Hi Lift that most of us have, including me, is looked down upon as too short by the serious dudes. I found that out in several of the classes I took, including rollover recovery. It's just that with a lifted Jeep, by the time you start getting to usable height, you're near the top of your range on a 48", especially if you have great articulation. You can work around this sometimes by doing a 'jack and stack' with a direct tire lift, but that doesn't always work, and if your winch is dead, or you don't have one and you're using your Hi-Lift as a come-a-long to get out of a hole or recover a rolled vehicle, you're going to really wish you had that extra 12" when you're having to secure your lift or winch out, and reset the jack every 4 feet. Additionally, the First Responder will act as a poor man's jaws of life to spread a windshield or open a door, which is very cool. Anyway, so what did I do? I bought the Hi-lift First Responder 60" because I'm a sucker. This thing is a beast. It also has purty colors on it.
I digress.
So I thought I could just pop onto my Rampage tailgate mount that is currently holding my Hi Lift 'Extreme' (they made lots of fun of the 'extreme' moniker at Overland Expo), and everything would be cool. No such luck. The multi-use base on the First Responder is too big for the seat on the rampage tailgate mount. And the screw down cross pin to hold the jack in place is too low for the first available hole in the First Responder due to the larger dimensions of the jack's mechanicals. While I could probably make the Rampage work with some mods, the weight of the jack and increased likelihood of injury for someone in an accident means that I want to find a better way to mount the 60" First Responder. I'm not down with hood mounts and my Gobi has too much stuff on it already, plus I don't want that weight so high up.
All of this brings me to my question.
Does anyone have a 60" Hi Lift mounted on the LoD tire carrier? Or a Garvin G2? Garvin said on the phone that it would work but extend past the taillight. The Garvin is lower, which is better for COG, but the LoD looks more stout. About to do Dyntrac 44/60 hybrids on 35's, yes 35's, not 37's, with a lift and want to do the LoD full width if it will carry my 60" Hi-Lift.
Any thoughts out there?


