Notices
Modified JK Tech Tech related bulletin board forum regarding subjects such as suspension, tires & wheels, steering, bumpers, skid plates, drive train, cages, on-board air and other useful modifications that will help improve the performance and protection of your Jeep JK Wrangler (Rubicon, Sahara, Unlimited and X) on the trail.

PLEASE DO NOT START SHOW & TELL TYPE THREADS IN THIS FORUM

Looking for constructive criticism

Thread Tools
 
Old Mar 15, 2015 | 05:45 PM
  #11  
Invest2m4's Avatar
JK Junkie
 
Joined: Jun 2013
Posts: 3,697
Likes: 2
From: Grosse Pointe, MI
Default

This thread is full of poor information and advice. Let's stick to reality.

1. You need a max of 2.5" of lift. Lift height has nothing to do with how large of a tire you can fit. Bump stops control that. If you go beyond 2.5", you're inviting all kinds of issues for no reason.

2. Run the stock driveshafts. You'll be fine. You'll break one on a rock before it wears out.

3. You don't need ball joints, etc. The Duratracs are basically 34" tires and are super light.

4. You absolutely should gusset the C's. You'll bend them at Rausch eventually. Buying a new axle sucks. Probably best to sleeve or truss the front axle as well. Cheap insurance policy. If you are not aware, the stock JK axle housing is really weak and prone to bending or breaking. You want to prevent that.

5. You'll need wheel spacers or new wheels. To prevent rubbing, you'll want 2" spacers or 4.5" back space wheels. Ditch the front air dam, it will rub regardless.

Lastly, the AEV lift is overpriced and really lacks basic parts used in a suspension lift. You won't hate it, but it's snake oil.
Reply
Old Mar 15, 2015 | 05:59 PM
  #12  
JK505's Avatar
JK Super Freak
 
Joined: Aug 2014
Posts: 1,813
Likes: 0
From: Nokesville, Va
Default

Originally Posted by Invest2m4
This thread is full of poor information and advice. Let's stick to reality.

1. You need a max of 2.5" of lift. Lift height has nothing to do with how large of a tire you can fit. Bump stops control that. If you go beyond 2.5", you're inviting all kinds of issues for no reason.

2. Run the stock driveshafts. You'll be fine. You'll break one on a rock before it wears out.

3. You don't need ball joints, etc. The Duratracs are basically 34" tires and are super light.

4. You absolutely should gusset the C's. You'll bend them at Rausch eventually. Buying a new axle sucks. Probably best to sleeve or truss the front axle as well. Cheap insurance policy. If you are not aware, the stock JK axle housing is really weak and prone to bending or breaking. You want to prevent that.

5. You'll need wheel spacers or new wheels. To prevent rubbing, you'll want 2" spacers or 4.5" back space wheels. Ditch the front air dam, it will rub regardless.

Lastly, the AEV lift is overpriced and really lacks basic parts used in a suspension lift. You won't hate it, but it's snake oil.
Nail... Meet head. 100% agree with the exception of #3 because I wouldn't know.
Reply
Old Mar 15, 2015 | 06:39 PM
  #13  
Just_Q's Avatar
JK Enthusiast
 
Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 159
Likes: 1
From: Murrieta, CA
Default

Originally Posted by Invest2m4
This thread is full of poor information and advice. Let's stick to reality.

1. You need a max of 2.5" of lift. Lift height has nothing to do with how large of a tire you can fit. Bump stops control that. If you go beyond 2.5", you're inviting all kinds of issues for no reason.

2. Run the stock driveshafts. You'll be fine. You'll break one on a rock before it wears out.

3. You don't need ball joints, etc. The Duratracs are basically 34" tires and are super light.

4. You absolutely should gusset the C's. You'll bend them at Rausch eventually. Buying a new axle sucks. Probably best to sleeve or truss the front axle as well. Cheap insurance policy. If you are not aware, the stock JK axle housing is really weak and prone to bending or breaking. You want to prevent that.

5. You'll need wheel spacers or new wheels. To prevent rubbing, you'll want 2" spacers or 4.5" back space wheels. Ditch the front air dam, it will rub regardless.

Lastly, the AEV lift is overpriced and really lacks basic parts used in a suspension lift. You won't hate it, but it's snake oil.

But you didn't answer the unspoken question on "How to get a .98g skid pad rating on a lifted JK?"
I was leaving the lift size, brand out of any answer I would give, that is what Dirtman's sticky is for. Great advice on your list. I do have one questions from your list. At what lift does someone need driveshafts on a 2 dr? I can't remember off the top of my head and the sticky is gone. The OP has a 2 dr and I do remember the need for driveshafts at a lower lift height than the JKU.
Reply
Old Mar 15, 2015 | 06:41 PM
  #14  
twofourflinching's Avatar
JK Enthusiast
 
Joined: Feb 2014
Posts: 349
Likes: 0
From: RSM, CA
Default

Originally Posted by JK505
Nail... Meet head. 100% agree with the exception of #3 because I wouldn't know.
x2. Get something with adjustable arms.
Reply
Old Mar 15, 2015 | 08:11 PM
  #15  
bryanwithawhy's Avatar
Thread Starter
JK Enthusiast
 
Joined: Jan 2015
Posts: 125
Likes: 0
From: New York, Long Island
Default

Originally Posted by Invest2m4
This thread is full of poor information and advice. Let's stick to reality.

1. You need a max of 2.5" of lift. Lift height has nothing to do with how large of a tire you can fit. Bump stops control that. If you go beyond 2.5", you're inviting all kinds of issues for no reason.

2. Run the stock driveshafts. You'll be fine. You'll break one on a rock before it wears out.

3. You don't need ball joints, etc. The Duratracs are basically 34" tires and are super light.

4. You absolutely should gusset the C's. You'll bend them at Rausch eventually. Buying a new axle sucks. Probably best to sleeve or truss the front axle as well. Cheap insurance policy. If you are not aware, the stock JK axle housing is really weak and prone to bending or breaking. You want to prevent that.

5. You'll need wheel spacers or new wheels. To prevent rubbing, you'll want 2" spacers or 4.5" back space wheels. Ditch the front air dam, it will rub regardless.

Lastly, the AEV lift is overpriced and really lacks basic parts used in a suspension lift. You won't hate it, but it's snake oil.
All good info. Make a recommendation if you feel there are better options for a lift. I'm open to suggestions, the point of this thread was to educate myself and not only get the best info for my own project but to be able to best advise my customers.
Reply
Old Mar 16, 2015 | 06:08 AM
  #16  
etl330's Avatar
JK Freak
 
Joined: Feb 2013
Posts: 830
Likes: 1
From: LI, NY
Default

I run the 2.5" AEVwith 315/70/17 duratracs and I like it fine. The ride is a little firm, but it corners better than I could ever expect it to and I hear with heavier bumpers the ride would settle down a bit. I wish I could compare the ride to Rock Krawler or Metal Cloak. I've done greens at RC with no issues, but that's not really saying much lol. I plan to push it harder at this year's JK Freak Fest in May(great event - you should try to come) so we will see how it goes. I'll likely try to sell the Jeep after Freak Fest and get into a new Rubi like I'd mentioned to you a few weeks ago and I'll probably go Rock Krawler or Metal Cloak on that one.

Oh and as far as gearing goes I run 3.73 and it's livable, but maybe only because I've never driven one properly geared.
Reply
Old Mar 16, 2015 | 06:09 AM
  #17  
twofourflinching's Avatar
JK Enthusiast
 
Joined: Feb 2014
Posts: 349
Likes: 0
From: RSM, CA
Default

Originally Posted by bryanwithawhy
All good info. Make a recommendation if you feel there are better options for a lift. I'm open to suggestions, the point of this thread was to educate myself and not only get the best info for my own project but to be able to best advise my customers.
terraflex 3 inch with 8 adjustable arms. Kit is complete with brake lines and quick discos. Do it right the first time.
Reply
Old Mar 16, 2015 | 06:32 AM
  #18  
jadmt's Avatar
JK Jedi
JK-Forum Ambassador
 
Joined: Sep 2012
Posts: 4,364
Likes: 107
From: missoula,mt
Default

Rock Krawler 2.5" stock mod ~$500 from northride4x4, Rancho 5000X ~124 from 4wd.com flexes well and handles like a sports car.
2" bumps front and rear. I disagree with the never wearing out the drive shaft. I think if you off road you will eventually wear it out. I did the rancho exhaust spacer mod as at full droop the stock was hitting the boot.


Last edited by jadmt; Mar 16, 2015 at 06:35 AM.
Reply
Old Mar 16, 2015 | 07:20 AM
  #19  
blue project's Avatar
JK Super Freak
 
Joined: Jan 2011
Posts: 1,531
Likes: 1
From: Cape Cod
Default

Originally Posted by catahoula
Pics please anybody?
AEV 2.5" lift with 285/75/17's.

Click image for larger version

Name:	ForumRunner_20141020_174454.jpg
Views:	108
Size:	68.4 KB
ID:	601486

Last edited by blue project; Mar 16, 2015 at 07:47 AM.
Reply
Old Mar 16, 2015 | 07:51 AM
  #20  
DunnyBunny's Avatar
JK Junkie
JK-Forum Ambassador
 
Joined: Nov 2011
Posts: 3,863
Likes: 1
From: Bossier City, LA
Default

Originally Posted by Invest2m4
This thread is full of poor information and advice. Let's stick to reality.

1. You need a max of 2.5" of lift. Lift height has nothing to do with how large of a tire you can fit. Bump stops control that. If you go beyond 2.5", you're inviting all kinds of issues for no reason.

2. Run the stock driveshafts. You'll be fine. You'll break one on a rock before it wears out.

3. You don't need ball joints, etc. The Duratracs are basically 34" tires and are super light.

4. You absolutely should gusset the C's. You'll bend them at Rausch eventually. Buying a new axle sucks. Probably best to sleeve or truss the front axle as well. Cheap insurance policy. If you are not aware, the stock JK axle housing is really weak and prone to bending or breaking. You want to prevent that.

5. You'll need wheel spacers or new wheels. To prevent rubbing, you'll want 2" spacers or 4.5" back space wheels. Ditch the front air dam, it will rub regardless.

Lastly, the AEV lift is overpriced and really lacks basic parts used in a suspension lift. You won't hate it, but it's snake oil.
Boom finally somebody! Lol
Reply



All times are GMT -8. The time now is 11:02 PM.