Looking for info on Ring and pinion install
Hi,
I have a 2010 JK Unlimited automatic on 33" tires on pro comp steelies. The wheels were off my 08' JK 6 speed, I didnt notice the gearing issue so much on that Jeep as I do on the new one. Im pretty sure my new one came with the 3.21 gears, and its a complete pig. I want to change the gears to get it moving well and maybe even tow some things in the future. I was to do the 5.13's in the front and rear. Here are my questions:
1. What parts do I need besides the 5.13 R&P for Dana 30 and one for Dana 44, Installation kits for both front and back? (I was told I will need new carriers, is this true and do I need them in the front and back?)
2. Can I re-gear my speedometer to read accurately while im in there?
3. What is the most widely used brand of R&P's for 5.13's?
4. What gear oil is best to use after the install?
5. Is there a DIY for the install for this? (I have read that the setting the pinion depth can be difficult, but I have built a few drag motors and transmission in my day for audi's and VW's, so I'd at least like to take a look at the install before paying someone)
6. Anyone know of a reputable shop not too far from Queens, New York? (Id be willing to take a drive for someone reputable and or a good price. If i choose to have someone do it)
I think that covers everything, I have done a bunch of searching on here and online, but Im still left wondering these few things. Sorry if I missed them in the search, If I did, maybe someone can point me in the right direction.
Thanks in advance.
I have a 2010 JK Unlimited automatic on 33" tires on pro comp steelies. The wheels were off my 08' JK 6 speed, I didnt notice the gearing issue so much on that Jeep as I do on the new one. Im pretty sure my new one came with the 3.21 gears, and its a complete pig. I want to change the gears to get it moving well and maybe even tow some things in the future. I was to do the 5.13's in the front and rear. Here are my questions:
1. What parts do I need besides the 5.13 R&P for Dana 30 and one for Dana 44, Installation kits for both front and back? (I was told I will need new carriers, is this true and do I need them in the front and back?)
2. Can I re-gear my speedometer to read accurately while im in there?
3. What is the most widely used brand of R&P's for 5.13's?
4. What gear oil is best to use after the install?
5. Is there a DIY for the install for this? (I have read that the setting the pinion depth can be difficult, but I have built a few drag motors and transmission in my day for audi's and VW's, so I'd at least like to take a look at the install before paying someone)
6. Anyone know of a reputable shop not too far from Queens, New York? (Id be willing to take a drive for someone reputable and or a good price. If i choose to have someone do it)
I think that covers everything, I have done a bunch of searching on here and online, but Im still left wondering these few things. Sorry if I missed them in the search, If I did, maybe someone can point me in the right direction.
Thanks in advance.
With 3.21's, you will want a new front carrier for the d30
Gears front and rear
Master install (master overhaul, whichever term you find). Regular install kits can be used, but the new bearings that come in the overhaul kit are good to have.
Yukon probably has the best reviews/feedback - but all 'JK' gears are made in the same factories overseas and reboxed. None are US made, so the brand probably doesn't matter so much.
Go out to the website of the AEV ProCal or Superchips Flashpaq. Both will re-calibrate, and both have some great extra functions. (there are a few others to look at also, but those two have the best reviews)
These are by BlacknorthernJK....
https://www.jk-forum.com/forums/show...8112-It-begins....
https://www.jk-forum.com/forums/show...?82262-Gearing
Gears front and rear
Master install (master overhaul, whichever term you find). Regular install kits can be used, but the new bearings that come in the overhaul kit are good to have.
Yukon probably has the best reviews/feedback - but all 'JK' gears are made in the same factories overseas and reboxed. None are US made, so the brand probably doesn't matter so much.
Go out to the website of the AEV ProCal or Superchips Flashpaq. Both will re-calibrate, and both have some great extra functions. (there are a few others to look at also, but those two have the best reviews)
These are by BlacknorthernJK....
https://www.jk-forum.com/forums/show...8112-It-begins....
https://www.jk-forum.com/forums/show...?82262-Gearing
Last edited by wayoflife; Jan 2, 2011 at 09:15 AM.
I don't blame ya, lots of these places charge outrageous rates. High Country has lots of local feedback on their high prices, but they are far from the 'only' option in Denver, just shop around. At least have a good shop in mind for if/when your DIY gear job has issues or you want a second opinion on the pattern...
Last edited by wayoflifette; Jan 2, 2011 at 09:15 AM.
$2100 is RIDICULOUS! I have been working on cars for years, I wouldnt charge near that much to pull a motor from a car rebuild it and put it back in. Thanks a lot for posting that write up Josh, I dont have time to look it over right now as we're closing in on new years over here and I have to get moving, but ill take a look this weekend. Everyone have a safe and happy new year!
To the OP
Sorry for hijacking the thread....but if you're still thinking of doing it yourself...have a good respect for what you are getting into, and the potencial for disaster that could follow. That being said, I have never touched gears and I'm gonna do em' on my brand new $33k toy.
Sorry for hijacking the thread....but if you're still thinking of doing it yourself...have a good respect for what you are getting into, and the potencial for disaster that could follow. That being said, I have never touched gears and I'm gonna do em' on my brand new $33k toy.
Is this a good deal on all the parts I would need to do this swap? 4x4groupbuy.com/store/yukon-dana-3044-gear-package-frontrear-install-kits-p-9421.html[/url]
Also, here is a copy of my window sticker, it says my option package has the 3.73 rear axle ratio. I assume this means that I wont need to change the front dana 30 carrier to swap in the 5.13's? Just making sure, thanks!
Last edited by mkjeep; Jan 1, 2011 at 12:46 PM. Reason: no clicky
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Check northridge before you order
http://www.northridge4x4.com/proddet...ERHAUL&cat=277
And yes, with 3.73's you will not need a front carrier.
http://www.northridge4x4.com/proddet...ERHAUL&cat=277
And yes, with 3.73's you will not need a front carrier.
Check northridge before you order
http://www.northridge4x4.com/proddet...ERHAUL&cat=277
And yes, with 3.73's you will not need a front carrier.
http://www.northridge4x4.com/proddet...ERHAUL&cat=277
And yes, with 3.73's you will not need a front carrier.
All gears for the jk are made in India, Korea, or China, reboxed for whomever here. So it really don't matter. Your paying more for a box.



