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Old Jun 4, 2017 | 06:05 AM
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I have a 2013 Crush with 11k miles that I am considering converting from manual to auto for medical reasons ( that and the fact that the 5-6th gear shift on it is a PITA). Most of the posts I can find online either say don't do it, or they are talking about the 1st Gen JK's and not the 2012-up A580. Does anyone have a good link to this swap and what is involved? Looks like the tranny by itself runs about $1200 on EBay, does it bolt right up to the same transfer case, and is it the same length as the 6sp manual? I know you then have to find all the shifter/pedal/console pieces, but what is involved with computer and wiring? Ive considered just trading for a new one with auto and the Chief Blue, but I'm kind of partial to my more rare Crush color, and other than the tranny its set up just the way I want..Thanks for any info..
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Old Jun 4, 2017 | 08:45 AM
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Originally Posted by donbarnes
Most of the posts I can find online either say don't do it, or they are talking about the 1st Gen JK's and not the 2012-up A580.
Here's another one for that pile. Don't do it.

Unless you have deep sentimental attachment, beyond the color, you're looking at a labor and time rabbit hole, that will leave you with a Frankenstein vehicle at the end of the day. Aside from the transmission and that swap, figure in the electronics, the harnesses, the ECM, etc. Personally, I'd off it and get what you want.

If the color is an issue, find one you can live with and spend the money to get a good paint job done, and you'll still be ahead.
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Old Jun 4, 2017 | 09:26 AM
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I've been down that rabbit hole once already, I converted my street legal VW based sandrail to the rare full automatic out of the VW buses and Type-3, that was about a two month job that involved completely rebuilding the frame to get it to fit- But now that its done I love it..
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Old Jun 4, 2017 | 10:58 AM
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Going to an autostick in a VW based rail and going from a manual to an auto in a late model Jeep filled with electronics isn't the same game. Hell, that's not even the same sport.

I have a feeling that you just need one person to tell you it's a great idea as your mind is made up at this point and you need that nudge of validation.

Keep us posted as you work through this undertaking.
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Old Jun 4, 2017 | 11:01 AM
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Here's a slew of Crush colored Jeeps:

https://www.cargurus.com/Cars/l-Used...#resultsPage=1
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Old Jun 4, 2017 | 11:03 AM
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hey if you want to I have a automatic and ill do the swap
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Old Jun 4, 2017 | 01:27 PM
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Jordy, not an Autostick in my rail, its the full automatic that doesn't fit in Beetle based frames..and when I started it I was expecting some electronic gremlins because I have Subaru EFI, but the computer ended up not seeming to see any difference between the auto and manual, so no issues there..
But back to the Jeep thing, I guess I was hoping someone would say they've done it and it wasnt that bad, and would post a build thread...But most of what I've found online about 2012 and up swaps has been professional shops doing hemi based swaps. About the only way I could see doing it myself at this point would be to buy a totaled auto Jk and swap everything, but even totaled JK's look like they start around $8-9K.. I'm going to proceed with trading or selling mine and ordering one in that new Chief color..
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Old Jun 4, 2017 | 07:31 PM
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Good call on the sell and getting what you want. Just wanted to make sure you know what you're getting into. The swap thing is a big undertaking, and one that I toy with when I pull my boat anchor 3.8 and put an LS with a 6 speed GM auto behind it.

No matter how simple it may seem, and cost effective, like the $1200 tranny, the devil is in the details. I can pick up a cheap LS all day long. It's the other $15K to get the swap done that stalls it.
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Old Jun 4, 2017 | 08:47 PM
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Originally Posted by jordy
Good call on the sell and getting what you want. Just wanted to make sure you know what you're getting into. The swap thing is a big undertaking, and one that I toy with when I pull my boat anchor 3.8 and put an LS with a 6 speed GM auto behind it.

No matter how simple it may seem, and cost effective, like the $1200 tranny, the devil is in the details. I can pick up a cheap LS all day long. It's the other $15K to get the swap done that stalls it.
A manual to auto swap is easy during an engine conversion. It can be done with the 3.6 or 3.8 but it's a lot of work to do properly. 3.6 manual JK's are missing the interior SLP(shift lever position) harness. Starting in 2012 JK's use a SLP module on the network and manual JK's do not have this harness. What's odd is all 2007-11 JK's had the automatic shifter plug whether it was a manual or automatic making thing's a bit easier.

3.8 JK's used a different PCM for an automatic vs a manual transmission. The Pentstar JK's went to an ECM with a separate TCM for the 5 speed automatic. There's more to it so if your not married to your JK it might be easier to buy and sell.

As far as the LS goes look out. When our EZ install is introduced it will change how you think about V8 swaps. EZ Install uses stock modules and the GM harness from your liftout engine. Eliminating the harness, the most expensive part of the kit, will lower the price of the kit. Then factor in no cutting, no welding, no grinding plus virtually plug and play electronics reduces the labor hours of the install to weekend of work. Were doing turnkey installs now starting at $14,999 all in. If you source your own liftout engine and supply the labor an LS conversion won't be much more than some SC installs.
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Old Jun 6, 2017 | 02:50 PM
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Vegasrobbi completely scared me off the idea of swapping.. I went down to the stealership today and they offered a deal I can live with, so I put a deposit down on a special order in the new Chief color with an auto
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