My esp solution
JK Enthusiast
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 400
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From: Stuttgart, Germany
ESP is a driving aid.
ESP is not meant to drive the vehicle for you.
It will not prevent you from having an accident - it will help you maintain control the vehicle in difficult situations.
It is programmed with a stock vehicle in mind - it will help with a modified vehicle but it will not react properly in all cases, which is why it can be totally disabled.
ESP is limited to the algorithems with which it is programed - it cannot have an appropriate reaction to all situations.
It is not ideal for some off road situations - this is why it can be partially or completly disabled.
Everyone can benifit from ESP - there is no driver that is "too good" for ESP.
All that being said, disabling ESP is a personal choice that should be made after weighing the pros and cons. If you are like me, drive a modified JK, spend significant time off road, and remember what it is like to drive a vehicle before ESP, ABS, and front wheel drive, perhaps ESP activating when it shouldn't because of the modifications and ESP being a hinderance on some off road situations is a good reason to deactiviate it. I would like to think that I am a pretty good driver, but I know that ESP would benifit me, but it often kicks in when it shouldn't and becomes a nuisance, so I perminantly disabled it. What I wish for is a reprogramed ESP that is calculated for my vehicle and not for a stock one.
ESP is not meant to drive the vehicle for you.
It will not prevent you from having an accident - it will help you maintain control the vehicle in difficult situations.
It is programmed with a stock vehicle in mind - it will help with a modified vehicle but it will not react properly in all cases, which is why it can be totally disabled.
ESP is limited to the algorithems with which it is programed - it cannot have an appropriate reaction to all situations.
It is not ideal for some off road situations - this is why it can be partially or completly disabled.
Everyone can benifit from ESP - there is no driver that is "too good" for ESP.
All that being said, disabling ESP is a personal choice that should be made after weighing the pros and cons. If you are like me, drive a modified JK, spend significant time off road, and remember what it is like to drive a vehicle before ESP, ABS, and front wheel drive, perhaps ESP activating when it shouldn't because of the modifications and ESP being a hinderance on some off road situations is a good reason to deactiviate it. I would like to think that I am a pretty good driver, but I know that ESP would benifit me, but it often kicks in when it shouldn't and becomes a nuisance, so I perminantly disabled it. What I wish for is a reprogramed ESP that is calculated for my vehicle and not for a stock one.
JK Freak
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 753
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From: NY
ESP is a driving aid.
ESP is not meant to drive the vehicle for you.
It will not prevent you from having an accident - it will help you maintain control the vehicle in difficult situations.
It is programmed with a stock vehicle in mind - it will help with a modified vehicle but it will not react properly in all cases, which is why it can be totally disabled.
ESP is limited to the algorithems with which it is programed - it cannot have an appropriate reaction to all situations.
It is not ideal for some off road situations - this is why it can be partially or completly disabled.
Everyone can benifit from ESP - there is no driver that is "too good" for ESP.
All that being said, disabling ESP is a personal choice that should be made after weighing the pros and cons. If you are like me, drive a modified JK, spend significant time off road, and remember what it is like to drive a vehicle before ESP, ABS, and front wheel drive, perhaps ESP activating when it shouldn't because of the modifications and ESP being a hinderance on some off road situations is a good reason to deactiviate it. I would like to think that I am a pretty good driver, but I know that ESP would benifit me, but it often kicks in when it shouldn't and becomes a nuisance, so I perminantly disabled it. What I wish for is a reprogramed ESP that is calculated for my vehicle and not for a stock one.
ESP is not meant to drive the vehicle for you.
It will not prevent you from having an accident - it will help you maintain control the vehicle in difficult situations.
It is programmed with a stock vehicle in mind - it will help with a modified vehicle but it will not react properly in all cases, which is why it can be totally disabled.
ESP is limited to the algorithems with which it is programed - it cannot have an appropriate reaction to all situations.
It is not ideal for some off road situations - this is why it can be partially or completly disabled.
Everyone can benifit from ESP - there is no driver that is "too good" for ESP.
All that being said, disabling ESP is a personal choice that should be made after weighing the pros and cons. If you are like me, drive a modified JK, spend significant time off road, and remember what it is like to drive a vehicle before ESP, ABS, and front wheel drive, perhaps ESP activating when it shouldn't because of the modifications and ESP being a hinderance on some off road situations is a good reason to deactiviate it. I would like to think that I am a pretty good driver, but I know that ESP would benifit me, but it often kicks in when it shouldn't and becomes a nuisance, so I perminantly disabled it. What I wish for is a reprogramed ESP that is calculated for my vehicle and not for a stock one.
WELL SAID...so, is it as easy as splicing a switch into the line? Which wire and what type of switch?
JK Super Freak
Joined: Jul 2009
Posts: 1,457
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From: B.F.E, MI
I thought about doing the switch thing, but realized finally I don't need to. My ESP does not act the same as I hear others describe. I have always been a little confused while reading the ESP threads.
I believe now that the AEV programmed computer changed things.
If I hold in the ESP button for 7 seconds or so (it never chimes), it deactivates ESP/traction control at any speed (2wd or 4wd) and it will not come back on unless I press the button again or restart the Jeep. The ABS still works.
I know it is off at speed after getting the rear end sliding around, kicked it down and broke the tires loose on gravel at 65+ (doh) and for sure there was no ESP. It would have not allowed the wheel spin, and the ABS would have been going crazy.
I usually leave it on while on the road. Most of the time I am not trying to spin the tires or cornering hard enough to activate it anyway.
It has its uses, and limitations.
I believe now that the AEV programmed computer changed things.
If I hold in the ESP button for 7 seconds or so (it never chimes), it deactivates ESP/traction control at any speed (2wd or 4wd) and it will not come back on unless I press the button again or restart the Jeep. The ABS still works.
I know it is off at speed after getting the rear end sliding around, kicked it down and broke the tires loose on gravel at 65+ (doh) and for sure there was no ESP. It would have not allowed the wheel spin, and the ABS would have been going crazy.
I usually leave it on while on the road. Most of the time I am not trying to spin the tires or cornering hard enough to activate it anyway.
It has its uses, and limitations.
Last edited by Yankee; Aug 23, 2011 at 08:03 AM.
JK Enthusiast
Joined: Apr 2011
Posts: 456
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From: BC Canada
Wouldn't pulling the fuse also disable your tail lights?.....also when disabled with a kill switch, the bld effect is disabled, and you basicly have an open diff, how can this be good for any jeep without LSD?....on or off road....