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Old Jun 28, 2016 | 09:26 AM
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I put the teraflex monster track bar in. You can tell its quality that thing really is a monster. I don't think think a nuclear war could break that thing. Front end also feels better and stronger IMO. I always say pay for quality cause in the long run cheap always costs more.
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Old Jun 28, 2016 | 07:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Rubicon508
I put the teraflex monster track bar in. You can tell its quality that thing really is a monster. I don't think think a nuclear war could break that thing. Front end also feels better and stronger IMO. I always say pay for quality cause in the long run cheap always costs more.
from my experience TeraFlex's cheap Chinese products and quality aren't two things that go together.
I would rather have a stock one if I didn't need to center my axle, it's plenty strong.
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Old Jun 28, 2016 | 08:41 PM
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Originally Posted by mds22
from my experience TeraFlex's cheap Chinese products and quality aren't two things that go together. I would rather have a stock one if I didn't need to center my axle, it's plenty strong.
I'm pretty sure the OEM is made from Chinese steel so why not get a bigger stronger piece of Chinese engineering under there. It made my ride feel a lot more stable. Have you seen how much a stock track bar flexes? Especially with bigger heavier tires. Last thing I wanna have to worry about is bending my trac bar when it's so inexpensive to just get a stronger one.
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Old Jun 29, 2016 | 05:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Rubicon508
I'm pretty sure the OEM is made from Chinese steel so why not get a bigger stronger piece of Chinese engineering under there. It made my ride feel a lot more stable. Have you seen how much a stock track bar flexes? Especially with bigger heavier tires. Last thing I wanna have to worry about is bending my trac bar when it's so inexpensive to just get a stronger one.
Yes it's Chinese but it's free.
I've NEVER heard of or read about someone bending their track bar.
The problems come when the bushings wear out, which has been a major complaint against TF because their bushings wear out faster than stock anyway.
So I'll ask... Besides using it to center your axle what benefits are there in spending the extra $$
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Old Jun 29, 2016 | 05:13 AM
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Originally Posted by mds22
Yes it's Chinese but it's free. I've NEVER heard of or read about someone bending their track bar. The problems come when the bushings wear out, which has been a major complaint against TF because their bushings wear out faster than stock anyway. So I'll ask... Besides using it to center your axle what benefits are there in spending the extra $$
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I bent mine after I went to 37s. If you don't have that large of tires such as 33s and down a stock track bar will do just fine.
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Old Jun 29, 2016 | 05:14 AM
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Originally Posted by mds22
Yes it's Chinese but it's free.
I've NEVER heard of or read about someone bending their track bar.
The problems come when the bushings wear out, which has been a major complaint against TF because their bushings wear out faster than stock anyway.
So I'll ask... Besides using it to center your axle what benefits are there in spending the extra $$
Not totally true get under the front end and have someone move the steering wheel back and forth you will see that bar flex
Yes flex when you see it first hand you will realize the need for thicker cheap Chinese steel
Btw that flex translates to many steering issues regardless of the bushings a solid track bar will give you tighter more responsive steering speaking from experience of course
I am using the JKS and I have no complaints

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Old Jun 29, 2016 | 06:42 AM
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Originally Posted by JKBud
<img src="https://www.jk-forum.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=650967"/> I bent mine after I went to 37s. If you don't have that large of tires such as 33s and down a stock track bar will do just fine.
synergy, EVO, AEV, all recommend using a stock track bar with their draglink flip kits. Why is that? Not many 33s with a flipped draglink. The reason...Stock TB is plenty strong. You guys can spend your money how you see fit, your jeep. But besides from centering the axle or worn bushings there is no need to replace the stock TB.

Most rigs with flipped DL run 37+ tires.
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Old Jun 29, 2016 | 06:53 AM
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Originally Posted by mds22
synergy, EVO, AEV, all recommend using a stock track bar with their draglink flip kits. Why is that? Not many 33s with a flipped draglink. The reason...Stock TB is plenty strong. You guys can spend your money how you see fit, your jeep. But besides from centering the axle or worn bushings there is no need to replace the stock TB. Most rigs with flipped DL run 37+ tires.
The draglink flip doesn't have anything to do with tire size, it has to do with amount of lift. Yes the two are related but not always a simple answer. I have a 2.5" lift and 37s. I don't need to flip my draglink to improve steering geometry. Nor do I have a raised track bar bracket. But I DID need an aftermarket track bar because I needed it to be adjustable to center my axle. It wasn't really noticeably bad with 35s but I was rubbing my frame badly with the 37s (worse one one side than the other) and knew my axle wasn't centered. If you are running 4" of lift and 33s (don't know why anyone would do that but okay), you will want to correct your steering geometry by doing a draglink flip and raising the track bar. And again, you still might need an adjustable track bar to center the axle. Aftermarket track bars exist for their adjustability. Not their strength.

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Old Jun 29, 2016 | 08:01 AM
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Originally Posted by mds22
synergy, EVO, AEV, all recommend using a stock track bar with their draglink flip kits. Why is that? Not many 33s with a flipped draglink. The reason...Stock TB is plenty strong. You guys can spend your money how you see fit, your jeep. But besides from centering the axle or worn bushings there is no need to replace the stock TB.

Most rigs with flipped DL run 37+ tires.
Watch the video starting at 2:10 - 3:00
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Old Jun 29, 2016 | 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted by PsychoCupcake
The draglink flip doesn't have anything to do with tire size, it has to do with amount of lift. Yes the two are related but not always a simple answer. I have a 2.5" lift and 37s. I don't need to flip my draglink to improve steering geometry. Nor do I have a raised track bar bracket. But I DID need an aftermarket track bar because I needed it to me adjustable to center my axle. It wasn't really noticeably bad with 35s but I was rubbing my frame badly with the 37s (worse one one side than the other) and knew my axle wasn't centered. If you are running 4" of lift and 33s (don't know why anyone would do that but okay), you will want to correct your steering geometry by doing a draglink flip and raising the track bar. And again, you still might need an adjustable track bar to center the axle. Aftermarket track bars exist for their adjustability. Not their strength.
lol i think you missed my point. I'm saying the reason you have a DL flip is because you have 3"+ of lift which is normally means you have that much lift to clear the big tires
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