OK, you are either confusing me with someone else at best or at worst a liar.

I have never contacted Hypertech via phone. All my correspondence with Hypertech was via email, and I never neglected to mention that I had headers along with a full complement of intake and exhaust upgrades. Never was it suggested that I not run your tune.

Here is the exact text that was sent via my first email to Hypertech,

In my experience, and admittedly outside the norm with CAI, headers and high flow exhaust, I experience lean conditions with the Hypertech Max Energy Premium setting.

In it's entirety all of my dialog with Hypertech lasted 10 days. At that point I was done and knew I would be left to my own devices to solve my lean conditions. In the end a bump to 94 Octane and the premium setting worked OK, not a performance increase but no more knock and pinging.

Here's a link to a poll on this site and where my quest for some help began,

https://www.jk-forum.com/forums/show...ypertech+users

The revisionist history is not appreciated and I'll ask you kindly once again to please stop slinging mud my direction.

Also, and so the record is clear, from the R&D Team Leader at Hypertech, "Because the Jeep (and most Dodge) computers are speed density based (manifold pressure vs. RPM) the additional airflow probably won’t be detected or corrected for". While that's a nice tidy statement, there are a lot of people who run either an after market exhaust or have made airflow adjustments on the intake side, be it a CAI or drop in filter.

So, where is the line and at what point does a tune based on a stock JK start falling short because of increased airflow or better cylinder evacuation via exhaust upgrades? The answer from Hypertech was vague and ambiguous. Again, from the R&D Team Leader at Hypertech "We have already adjusted our tuning to ensure that “some” additional hardware modifications". Please note that the quotation marks on the word "some" weren't added by me.

Lastly, I have had none of the lean issues with my Superchips Flashpaq. If I had a Diablo Tuner I could also address lean issues on my own. The Hypertech didn't handle it without my own efforts to find resolve and my disdain for Hypertech hasn't come from a product failure, but one of a customer service failure that only their National Sale Manager seemed to understand. Everyone else was ducking and hiding with great quotes such as "I don’t think this is anything we need to tackle".

 

If it's anything like the old Ebay scam, they send you a couple of resistors and some other Radio Shack crap and some instructions on how to solder it into one of the intake sensors. Spend the money on a slow watch so you think you get somewhere faster.

 

These are pretty much always a resistor to plug into the AIT sensor socket. What it does is make the PCM think you are getting a lot of air and in turn dumps a corresponding amount of fuel through the injectors. While at times you may get a very modest power bump, the majority of time you will be running rich. This will lead to emission issues, poor efficiency and wasted fuel.

 

Hey, I've got a stock jeep, will the Superchip do anything for it, or is the Superchip only beneficial for already performance enhanced jeeps (CAI, exhaust, 35's)?

 

The Superchips Flashpaq will provide performance gains for JKs with CAIs, exhaust systems, shorty headers and even a stock Jeep.

 

Thanks guys point taken. Gonna pass on the eBay crap. Have a great one! Soon as I reach 50 posts I got new stock tires and rims 4sale. Ttly

 

Sorry your thread got completely hijacked but to answer your question - they aren't worth the postage to get them. It is possible that a Jett-type chip will provide the claimed differences but from my experience you'll do better, and usually cheaper, by getting a Superchips programmer.

 

I have a CAI and new Cat Back Exhaust and now I am looking to do something to tweak my engine in order to compensate/optimize for my new airflow. So are you saying that I should not buy a hypertceh chip because I am no longer stock? Or are you talking about just talking about headers?

 

Interesting! Computer chip makers (eg. Intel) do exactly the same thing... they take exactly the same chip and mark is as different speeds (and of course charge accordingly), so computer folks have been "overclocking" cpu chips for years (decades?) by buying the "lower speed chip" and overclocking it to the higher speed.

 

Headers are the only thing we do not recommend using with our product, as far as bolt ons.