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Old Nov 26, 2015 | 07:03 AM
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Hi Ringer. Thanks for the drag link clarification. I have read elsewhere that bump stops may not be required with MC springs due to their design (top portion of the coils acting similar to bump stops), and I am planning on notching the frame in an effort to maintain as much up travel as possible (I am a certified autobody repair technician, so this facet of the build does not concern me).
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Old Nov 26, 2015 | 07:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Crom II
Hi Ringer. Thanks for the drag link clarification. I have read elsewhere that bump stops may not be required with MC springs due to their design (top portion of the coils acting similar to bump stops), and I am planning on notching the frame in an effort to maintain as much up travel as possible (I am a certified autobody repair technician, so this facet of the build does not concern me).
Bumps are required. MC coils are nice and they will work fine with your arms.
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Old Nov 26, 2015 | 07:22 AM
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Thank you for elaborating. Northridge is offering the PR44 with free Pro Steer ball joints, so the cost is n/a, and I like the fact they can be rebuilt in the vehicle.

The PR44 unlimited version housing is touted as being similar in strength to a 60, but the ring and pinion would be smaller, and the axles 30 vs. 35 spline. Why would it not be suitable for mild to moderate rock climbing with 37's? Most of my wheeling will be trails and mudding. Maybe I will stick with the 35's...
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Old Nov 26, 2015 | 07:28 AM
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Also, I am considering a high steer kit to help with the wandering I am experiencing. All the steering components, save for unit bearings and ball joints, are brand new, and the track bar and drag link are parallel. I am not experiencing any bump steer.
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Old Nov 26, 2015 | 07:38 AM
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Lastly, I think the PR44 is snake oil and not worth the cost. You can get a new Rubi axle for $3k less or buy a used one with the gears you want already in it. Prices have come way down. Nothing on a D44 was designed to run 37s. You can also buy a J8 housing for around $800, which has slightly thicker tubes. Truss and be done. $5k for a D44 is insane. You can build a 60 for half that.
I agree with this for the standard housing, but the unlimited with the added caster to get numbers where they belong is different. I would not call it a waste depending on the use of the Jeep.
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Old Nov 26, 2015 | 07:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Ringer
I agree with this for the standard housing, but the unlimited with the added caster to get numbers where they belong is different. I would not call it a waste depending on the use of the Jeep.
With a 2.5" lift, I don't think the caster correction adds much incremental value. There has to be over 100k JKs running around with lifts and stock axles. Is it nice? Sure. Is it $5k nice? I'd say no. I mean, it isn't all that difficult to rotate the C's on a stock axle.
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Old Nov 26, 2015 | 07:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Invest2m4
With a 2.5" lift, I don't think the caster correction adds much incremental value. There has to be over 100k JKs running around with lifts and stock axles. Is it nice? Sure. Is it $5k nice? I'd say no. I mean, it isn't all that difficult to rotate the C's on a stock axle.
Maybe 1% at best have the ability to cut and rotate C's. Would I buy it, no, but I also wouldn't say it's a waste for those that want to.
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Old Nov 26, 2015 | 08:14 AM
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Yeah, although I have faith in my aptitude to learn and develop new skills, and I certainly appreciate the advice on saving money, modifying an axle housing is not something I wish to do at this time. Therefore, I will likely proceed with the Pro Rock 44 Unlimited and stick with 35's. Below is my new build plan:

1) Pro Rock 44 Unlimited housing with welded track bar bracket, Eaton E-Locker, 30 spline RCV shafts, 5:13 gear ratio (tentative), Pro Steer ball joints, and Reid knuckles.
2) Metalcloak 3.5" dual rate springs
3) Keep the Teraflex 9550's for now, pending more research on shocks.
4) Synergy flip drag link kit with sector shaft reinforcement bracket and track bar.
5) Notch frame for clearance and then measure for bump stops, if still required.

Am I missing anything else?

Thanks!
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Old Nov 26, 2015 | 08:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Ringer
Maybe 1% at best have the ability to cut and rotate C's. Would I buy it, no, but I also wouldn't say it's a waste for those that want to.
You didn't say it, I did 😉

There's a shop local to me that charges $300 to do it. Not a bad price.
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Old Nov 26, 2015 | 08:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Invest2m4
This is full of fail. Good luck.
Damn - I was thinking the same thing. A little too much going on with too many variables.
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